And you are as biased as the people you’re telling off.
Good job, Mr. Mysterious New Palestinian Dude!
Really? Which claim did I make that did not have facts, plain and simple facts behind them? Where as the people I’m ‘telling off’, are talking about again, isolated incidents, UnIslamic acts, and the ones that are Islamic, I’m explaining why. Like why do people fight, that’s about as blunt as I can get with it as I am no apologist, and this is why debates with your type of mentality do not work, it’s simple, I make point A, B, and C, you disregard it all, as rubbish.
Difference between you and I, is I cited real events, and events that are well known. You, well I guess you don’t have the stomach for a real dialogue, where your version of reality doesn’t exist.
Jordanian, not Palestinian.
wohoo, a country mate 
I knew you’d like that 
where exactly from Jordan ?
Town in Irbid (إربد - سما الروسان) but not living there now, unfortunately. But Jordan’s still one of the nice places where a guy can get beat down for just looking at a girl the wrong way. Hence the irony that people depict Muslims as misogynists because of a few slanderous reports about them.
I don’t recall denying “point A, B, and C,” I recall calling you biased, which you are, and it’s quite evident in the wording you chose in the original post.
Both East and West has, be it because of some weird religion or ideology, done some terrible stuff, but all I see you guys are doing is attacking the other side for what they have done, without taking into consideration your own side’s action.
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And apologises for mistaking your nationality, Mr. Mysterious New Jordanian Dude!
Disregarding, and denying are two different words, see when you disregard my points, it’s like shrugging them off, if you can please note similar events, like Muslims killing 200,000 civilians, in a war that they already won, like WWII with the Japanese, or Muslims forcibly sterilizing 60,000 women because they weren’t genetically up to par with everyone else, I’d be happy to debate those points with you.
But that’s just it, that’s what the ‘civilized’ world is doing or did, the western first world countries, and these are the first countries to attack Islam, and Muslims for doing in comparison so little. But it is politically correct to call Islam and Muslims the bad guys right? But it’s politically incorrect to say an iota against the first world countries, why is that? So when I bring up legitimate points they’re bias? I don’t know how to say things about Abu Gharib, torture, chemical weapons against civilians and the likes, without take the side against them, and I’d hope you’d agree on that point.
Why do you keep bringing up all these historic events? I’m saying that both the East and the West have done some fucked up things, and if you’re denying that your part has it’s own share of “fucked up” it just proves further that you’re biased, which I was led to calling you in the first place because of sentences like this one:
“So when the civilized world kills tens of thousands of innocent people, be it Japs, Vietnamese, Muslims, Africans, it’s no problem thumbs up. But if any of these people raise a finger, they’re terrible people. If you’re so deluded you can’t actually see the bias and lies in modern media, then you shouldn’t even be debating the facts.”
And because you brought up Japan, then let me say that; no, the war was not won, and even more people would have died if they did not drop the bombs.
alright guys, lets keep history lessons away from this thread ok ? and stick to the very main Issue of this thread
I suppose we could 
See, this is just the thing, I’m trying to provoke you in telling me things that my side has done. The Islamic Empire had been around for well over one thousand years, and my point is you never heard about them mutilating entire societies of people, you never saw them literally having policies against other races, and religions and ethnic groups.
But a country like America is 200 years old, but look at all the wonderful skeletons in her closet. THAT’S my point, and nothing more. I mean I could be wonderfully vague and say “Yea! We all did some effed up stuff, lets all just hug and make up” it’s easy to say that when the fingers are pointing the other way. But I’m saying don’t point the finger at ISLAM, or MUSLIMS, without (1) understanding why they do certain things and (2) looking at how much worse many other countries and societies are.
And this is no place to discuss WWII so I’ll reply briefly, that after the take over of the Pacific Islands, the Japanese had no leg to stand on, they did surrender to prior to the drop of the bombs, but WWII was literally the start of the cold war, the President was just pissed they surrendered, because he wanted to show his ‘buddies’ in the USSR the new bomb they created. Thats why they dropped the bombs, a show of power, not to win the war. Japan was destroyed their soldiers were literally starving in places like Iwo Jima, you think they had a chance elsewhere?
Sure, but whenever we need to make a comparison, people should know their history. If anyone wants a question about Islam I’ll reply in a peaceful manner of course, but I don’t like the continuous trend of anti-Islamic remarks that with a little background knowledge could be easily answered. If they were asked sincerely instead of sarcastically to try to make a point, then it’s no problem, but if not they should expect some response.
am glad, that another one joined my team and plus a fellow country mate.
Well, there’s the obligatory: 9/11, the Madrid and London bombings.
Then there are the countless Shia & Sunni groups waging war against each other and all the civilians standing between them, there’s Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, numerous extremist groups in Africa, and the list goes on.
Anyway, I’ll stop posting about this now, as we were so nicely asked to.
Yes, 9/11 which is why I made sure to post the juicy facts about the beloved America, the stats speak for themselves. Numbers don’t lie.
Point being for every violent act a Muslim did against the west there’s about 100 that the west did against Muslims. But sure, lets keep this thread about asking Muslims; debating acts of Muslims should be for another thread.
Thanks it did. Mind if I ask one more?
Earlier I believe you said that Christians and Muslims were similar in that they worshiped the same God and came from the same place. Sure we both came from Abraham, but you guys from Ishmael. Actually I think you guys dispute that, maybe not. IDK, the stories are different there. Anyway, the God you describe is not the same God that I worship. I believe we are saved by grace through God-given faith, that faith in the redemptive power of Jesus Christ our Lord God, the final prophet. Though there are some of the same characters in the stories, if you dont have this its not Christianity. Thoughts?
I didn’t get the question to be honest, please clarify it once more
I want that one, not Afghanistan. I’m quite sure that violence against women happens in Afghanistan; I was looking for it happening in France.
Thanks for the answer, it’s good to know such things when I decide to go sightseeing in the Middle East one day
Lol, my name is Sebastian, Seba is just an abbreviation
come to İstanbul we have kebab and desserts. Seriously my country’s laws are just fine.