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From what I know, Freedom of Speech is regulated in the USA. You get arrested for shouting “Bomb!” on an airplane, you get arrested for shouting “Fire” in a crowded theater. Just saying that there are limitations. It isn’t 100% free.

EDIT - I missed where you said "but as long as they aren’t hurting anyone you can’t stop them.
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Yeah, you’ve gotta assume people aren’t going to be allowed to say or do things that are going to cause MASS DESTRUCTION. Saying “free speech isn’t free because I can’t shout ‘bomb!’ on an airplane” is the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.

you lol’d hard ? that ain’t anti-semetic that’s a fact and all around the world know it.

and everyone have freedom to speak whatever they want as long as it doesn’t hurt any one or a certain group

Zionism has become synonymous with the Israeli Far Right’s stated desire to “relocate” all non-Jews from the Israeli/Palestine area and turn it into a single, ethnically pure State. As a Jew, I have to be a “zionist” in the sense that Israel has a right to exist, but I’m strongly opposed to Zionism in its current incarnation. I’m also opposed to assholes who think it’s ok to kill kids who are conscripted - drafted - into the Israeli army.

don’t get me wrong man, I didn’t point my fingers on the entire Jewish people, only those freaks, we have Jewish Arabs man !,they live in Syria, palatine and Egypt

How can a humorous picture or story or gesture hurt anyone or any group? It’s not like Westergaard or Jeroom took a baseball bat, went to your home and break both your legs while yelling “Muhammed/Jesus is a tit!!”.

And if you meant hurtful words, by that logic, not a single soul in this world is allowed to have an opinion, because there’s bound to be someone out there that has a different opinion. So there goes the entire concept of freedom of speech.

I mean, you just said that Zionists are bastards. Why did you say that? You hurt the Zionist community that way. Why are you allowed to hurt people, but Westergaard isn’t allowed to break a Muslim law and hurt the Muslim community?

so you think it kind of a hypocrisy eh ?, you really don’t know what they did to us, what they’re still doing to us

So you’re just measuring with different standards then?

Oh, and my point wasn’t about hypocrisy, it was about freedom of speech. You had the freedom of speech to smack talk the Zionists, so Westergaard had the freedom of speech to break a Muslim law. -This- is measuring with a one uniform standard.

like they didn’t do that already ? :smiley:

p.s come on you guys I think we are drifting into politics right ? maybe we can get back on topic ?

… This isn’t about politics. This is about how different religions having a go at eachother about blaming the other, while they’re to blame as well.

Pointing fingers at others is easy, now try pointing at yourself.

Although I’ve missed most of this argument, with or without religon the glouroious thing about man is we can always find a reason to kill each other, if it wasn’t religon it’d probably be which science is right, or what to call athesists (Thank you South park Go God Go)

Just because you have the freedom of speech to say something, doesn’t mean you should. I could say that Bolteh’s mum is a crack whore slut who has sex with dogs. And then when you come to hunt me down to kill me, I cry free speech? Come on, that’s ridiculous.

Listen to this man !

You wouldn’t have to, because intelligent people won’t take you for serious and just laugh at you.

Oh really? You take every insult thrown at you at comedic value? I guess that’s good for you, but don’t expect everyone to share your laughter when you do the same.

You spoke your opinion about my mum, that’s your freedom of speech. Now, there’s two things I can do (probably some more, but I’ll keep it at two):

  1. I can get angry with you and demand apologies and/or hunt you down to punish you for insulting my mother.

  2. I can realize that it’s -your- opinion and that I know better. My mum isn’t a crack whore slut that fucks dogs (at least I hope so), so what you said was obviously misinformed slander. Why would I care about your opinion when I know better? When I know that the truth is different?

I’ll pick the second one, because I believe in rational reasoning.

Shadi, you’d been completely reasonable up until the stuff about the comics. Surely if those people aren’t Muslim, they can be forgiven for depicting it since they don’t know any better?

(I for one had no idea that depicting Muhammed is against Muslim law, until the events with Westergaard’s comics happened)

Exactly so. Surely attacking someone who offended you in ignorance is terribly malicious. Even if they did know the law, they wouldn’t hold any value to this law because they aren’t Muslim. The only time you can be legitimately offended is if a Muslim person depicted him, since the law applies to them.

have you seen his drawing ?

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