I lol’d at this, dude my country “thank god” is the safest country in middle east and lot of people can confirm this
of course man, my grandparents from my mother side are Christians 
,I hope someday that might happen too
I’d still like to know if you stand by your statement that “when an enemy invades a Muslim land no matter how far this land is, he is considered an enemy to whole Muslims and we should rush and defend it against it,” implying that you are in favor of the Afghan insurgency against NATO.
What’s wrong with an insurgency against NATO? They shouldn’t be in Afghanistan in the first place.
That’s a fairly blanket statement. You are just washing over a bunch of moral vagueness to say there is no cause for external help for Afghanistan. There is a great many wise thinkers who say the reason Afghanistan is in such turmoil is that no one helped them and hung around after the cold war.
I only want to hear whether it’s “justified by Islam” according to Shadi. I’m perfectly willing to start a new Afghanistan Massdebating Thread if you non-Muslims want to debate the pros and cons of a NATO presence in Afghanistan…
that’s beyond my knowledge bro, I really don’t know about it, so I rather not answering it with false info right ?
but there is a hadith in Islam and it roughly translate into : Businesses by intentions, so like maybe they shouldn’t be in Afghanistan but maybe their intention is to really help them ?
Nah bro you specifically said “when an enemy invades a Muslim land no matter how far this land is, he is considered an enemy to whole Muslims and we should rush and defend it against it.”
I’m wondering if you think that includes NATO/Afghanistan.
sadly in this time and age I don’t really think Muslims will help each other, look at palatine and Iraq for instance =/
What is your view on the call of certain Muslim-individuals to destroy Kurt Westergaard (and others)? His actions were met with harsh and violent reactions all over the Muslim society, including tempered and extremist Muslims.
Muslim law states that you can not depict the prophet in any shape or form, so they want to hear apologies from Westergard, Denmark and the entire western community.
Yet, western community states that we all (should) have freedom of speech, freedom of mind. On top of that, western laws also state that murder, violence and abuse are punishable offenses.
But why does the Islam point fingers at the western society for breaking on of their laws, while they break western laws on a daily basis. And it’s not only the extremists breaking “our” laws.
So you think Muslims should “help each other” by fueling the Afghan insurgency against NATO?
I mean, Muslims did travel to Iraq to fight the US there. And there are foreign fighters in Afghanistan too. I don’t consider that “helping,” but you seem to?
Maybe because western media are constantly pointing fingers at middle eastern societies for breaking western laws?
Well yes, my point is that I find it rather ironic that both are pointing fingers and both are claiming the other’s wrong.
Just leave each other be.
“freedom of speech” that’s the stupidest excuse ever, this is not a freedom of speech this is just pure hate and disgust, we’re not talking about a normal person here, they’re mocking one of the most sacred symbols of Islam, what do you expect ? send him flowers and complement him ?
They’re also frequently mocking the most holy persons and symbols of Christianity, you know?
His cartoon was a direct attack on the actions of extremist Muslims. The only thing he did to anger every Muslim was depict Muhammed, but the actual idea behind the cartoon wasn’t about claming that Muhammed was a terrorist.
So no, his cartoon wasn’t pure hate and disgust. It had the same meaning as the picture you posted in this thread earlier. Sure, he may have broken the sacred law of not depicting Muhammed, but that’s no act of hate and disgust. That was an act of freedom of speech and mind.
Jesus gets blasted in wastern society on a daily basis, but nobody, but the extremist christians, cares.
Translation: “It was Judas that cut the break cables of His cycle.”
Translation: “Go get help, Lassie…”
These forums were better when MGA was banned.
that’s just sad, you know better than me that mocking and making fun of sacred persons is just disgusting and sick
For a humorist, nothing needs to be sacred. That’s the way it is in our culture. You may find that disgusting - most of us find it hilarious and wonderful. Wonderful because freedom of speech can, for the sake of joking, be used to say pretty much anything.
Ok, I might not be the most religious type (I’d consider myself a Apathist), but I see no harm in this pictures. Neither have I ever met anyone that takes offense to these kinds of pictures (the author is a well known and respected cartoonist over here). Why should I see harm in it anyway? Your choice of words (mocking, making fun of) are pretty strong in this case. It’s a humorous take on the persona of Jesus, but it does not make fun of the religion or the reasons why people believe in Jesus. Same goes for that cartoon of Westergaard.
I lolled. Hard. This Zionist crap is awfully anti-semetic in my opinion. The earth isn’t meant to be sectioned off into ‘yours’ and ‘mine’. In fact, it’s not ‘meant’ for anything. The fact that people bitch about holy lands or whatever gets my goat. The violence, hate, and accusing from both sides is childish.
The definition of Freedom of Speech is “the freedom to speak without censorship and/or limitation.” If you want to criticism something, you’re free to do it, any way you want.
So basically, it doesn’t matter if it hurts your feelings, people are allowed to express what they wish. You can disagree, but as long as they aren’t hurting anyone you can’t stop them.
You said it. In fact, the more sacred something is, the funner it is to ridicule.