I grew up as a christian, and i just thought the bread and wine tasted good when i got it. No-one ever told me it was blood and flesh.
They told that to me, I was Catholic.
Haha, made me laugh. First recall that God was the one behind the guy losing his legs. That was God’s idea, and Gods plan.
Yeah, it’s real funny… I especially found humorous the kind of plans god made for similar people like Baylee Almon and 18 other children.
Oh and believe me God answered those millions of people’s prayers. He answered, ‘No’.
Wow! Really! Anytime something ‘impossible’ is prayed for it’s simply because god answered no. Your god acts exactly like anyone else’s make believe invisible friend that couldn’t do it either.
God isnt a magic trick where if you want something hard enough he gives it to you.
You are absolutely wrong on that assumption. Your bible clearly says that if you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. Jesus says it multiple times.
so if god can do anything that means it’s magic? please…
that is only symbolic…
Assassin: What about this?
It’s not fucking symbolic.
I JUST fucking explained the doctrine of transubstantiation to you.
God turns the wine and bread into actual blood and flesh when they receive it. It’s a miracle. And they’re belief, based on Jesus instruction to Peter, is that the Pope is infallible. If the Pope says it is so, then it is so, by the word of Jesus to Peter. That’s what they believe.
Well, you form of Christianity seems to be more sane than Catholicism, because Catholicism says:
what they belive and what is real are very different things.
don’t you think that you must deserve it first? and only prayer is not enough for this!
Yet, there is no fine print there. It doesn’t say “Ask and it will be given to you (some restrictions apply)”.
But, that raises the question: Don’t people that have had their leg amputated deserve to walk on their own two feet?
hahaha, the irony
I’ve just found this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6ILZAaAMI
A lot of people here were trying to explain this to Assassin, but he clearly misunderstood what they were trying to say. I think this video is a better explanation of why prayers work, or why they seem to work.
you know, there is lot more written there and they should be considered too.
Actually the best way to explain prayer is god has a plan. If you pray to him, why would he change his grand plan for you? The only way it would get “answered” is if it was already in his plan to begin with. So there is no point in praying.
can’t agree with that. but one is right god has a plan.
God knows everything assassin, he knows the future and the past. He knows that you need help. He even knows if you’re going to pray to him or not. So praying changes nothing.
He knows whether or not you’re going to heaven or hell too. There is no free will, you have a set destiny. Nothing in this life matters. All that matters is heaven, filled with sweet, blissful ETERNITY. If you don’t know, forever is quite a long time. God knows what will happen at the end of the universe, so why did he make it? How did he not see EVERYTHING coming?
knowing something and forcing something are different things. if I choose to eat onion and god knew it that i would onion that means it wasn’t my choice but it was forced to me by god? you don’t understand at all!
It just means god and you can’t actively do anything because he already knows the future.
well god can do, and does where needed. maybe he even know what will happen with his interference.
He knew what was needed before it was needed, he knew that he would do whatever he does, whatever he will do. Forever.
This is why omnipotence and omniscience don’t work.
Assassin, I have a question for you. Why do you think god made the universe?
because he needed it.