Anime

Anime isn’t one of my favorite things. I dislike that they all have to pertain to a certain seldom-varied style of art and the cheap Korean animation. I always hear and read about how awesome the stories are and stuff, and sometimes the art is really amazing for the few choppy frames it lasts.

I actually prefer the Japanese culture that doesn’t suck:




I suggest reading the manga (but you can watch the anime if you want) before you judge it. It’s really good. Hunter x Hunter, One Piece, and Berserk are by far the best running at the moment. HXH is about to return from a break but I think Berserk is on one.

I was joking. I don’t even know what show/manga it is.

I’ve never liked One Piece. It just never even tries to take itself seriously. Clearly the author tries to create some sort of compelling story while at the same time lampooning anime conventions, but the end result is something like the Scary Movie/Date Movie/Superhero Movie franchise: meh at best, shit at worst. When it comes to the big Shonen franchises, I think Naruto and Bleach are a lot better, especially Bleach. The only problem those two have is that they’re dragging out ad infinitum: even when you have a really compelling world and a great cast of characters, there’s only so much you can do with it before you’re just repeating yourself over and over again. The manga are better than the anime, but especially in the Naruto anime (not Shippuden, just yet) the whole thing should have been cut off at half of what it eventually produced.

How much of OP have you read? It has comedy in it but it always takes itself seriously. If you’d read the latest chapters of Naruto then you’d be saying that it doesn’t take itself seriously. We have a Naruto thread on another forum I’m a member of (which is in fact One Piece themed) and we just make silly predictions as to what is going to happen next, as jokes. There have actually been a lot that have come true.

One Piece has been consistently good for a long while, and the current arc is especially awesome. Here’s a good picture to explain the difference between the big shounen 4:

Not completely serious but there is a hint of truth.

Off-Topic: Dead Space animation is pretty good, sorry, can’t help it.

Dead Space: Downfall wasn’t anime, though. It was just had a low frame-rate.

Even with that, I found it much more enjoyable than any anime I’ve ever sat down and tried to watch. It had Barney the Dinosaur style ethnic variety and boasted a heaping mess of cool laser-chainsaws.

I watch Bleach and Death Note, but I don’t really want to watch more. I study Japanese and it’s fun to see how much I’ve improved, so naturally I go with sub. I don’t particularly like saying it because it’s the same opinion of all those goddamn weeaboos. You know the ones with “-chan” on the end of their names (they’re too stupid to realise you don’t put a honorific on your own name) and say things like “OMG SUGOI KAWAII DESU~~~~~”

Bleach can be quite good, though the filler is fucking awful. Seriously I dunno about other anime but it’s complete garbage.

Most accurate summary of anime ever.

Don’t forget the scenes where the background moves really quickly with multicoloured stripes for when a character is running.

shot-of-the-characters-eyes ZING RIVALS BATTLE SCENE! D:

Hellsing is quite good though
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When they get embarssesed/nervous and they sweat. Hahaha. Funny shit.

Hint? This is the bloody fucking gospel.

Basically, it’s pretty easy to sum up. If you hate anime, then just take a moment and stop, and ask yourself something:

Have you ever actually watched a GOOD anime? Not the mainstream crap like Pokemon and Naruto and Bleach and DBZ that have long since thrown away any semblance of quality in order to appeal to the masses. I’ve enjoyed this stuff, but I’m not even going to try to argue that it’s higher quality than any other kids cartoon out there.
I’m also not talking about the hyper pretentious bullcrap like neon genesis evangelion, Akira, Blue Gender, and even cowboy beebop to some extent either. They may be better quality, but it’s still full of so much shit it makes me choke sometimes.

The good stuff falls somewhere in between: Paranoia Agent is fucking awesome, Trigun is also awesome (which is probably why it’s constantly getting mentioned here), Howl’s Moving Castle is a strong contender which I’d even put above Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, the Oh My Goddess! OAVs are good but only get you 5 episodes, Ah My Goddess is kinda like a retcon of the series that draws more deeply from the manga, the first 5 seasons of Ranma 1/2 are pretty good though it doesn’t really escape the anime cliche’s at that much but it also was one of the older animes that was around before those cliches WERE cliches, History’s Strongest Disciple Kenichi is another one that has many cliches but still is enjoyable. Avatar: the last airbender is technically an american cartoon, but there’s some heavy anime influence there.

Most of this all boils down to the fact that while there might not be MUCH of a story to anime, there still usually is one. Most american cartoons typically have no overall storyline that would require an episode order, so no character growth, no characters coming in and out, and usually no sense of accomplishment as everything gets reset back to square one by the end of every episode.

Sorta like how in american cartoons when a character sees something surprising their eyes get big and pop out.

you only listed the bad ones.

ones that i know of that i think are good most of which i just found punching in random numbers on the remote at 12:00 p.m.

inuyasha (don’t know why.)

wolf rain (found on youtube)

full medal alchemist (it has talking armor)

The comic isn’t making declaring them all bad, but more demonstrating how gaining mainstream popularity has affected them, Dragonball and bleach both started out okay at the beginning but steadily got too much into the “my powerlevel is bigger than yours! Wait, your powerlevel is bigger now? Impossible!” and Naruto went from using determination to find happiness amidst angst to just being straight angst. I had worried One Piece was going to go the way of Dragonball Z, but it seems to have been narrowly avoiding that route and pretty much remains the same as it was from the beginning.

As do I. I understand what it’s trying to say, but FUCK it says it in a weird-ass way.

I used to watch One Piece, and even read the manga for it…both seemed to start out fairly strong, with some mature themes…

But for me, it just seemed to all go downhill. Things started getting TOO wacky, enemies started getting TOO random. I quit watching the anime when it got to the guy who could eat things and turn into them.

You all seem to like it, though…did it get better after I quit?

One Piece, in my opinion, has always been awesome but I’d say that right now it’s more awesome than usual. There’s a giant war going on against the strongest pirates and the Navy. You quit at that spot? That’s not very far into the series. And if you’re going to read any shonen manga you’re going to have to accept some bizarreness. Here’s a clip from one of the later episodes (which still isn’t very far). Spoilers though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPtqiZCoQoM

Edit: Hunter X Hunter has just started back up, the awesome continues :smiley: .

I fucking loved Full Metal Alchemist.

Got 3 more One Piece DVD sets for Christmas. They got 13 episodes each for around 30 dollars per set. Considering that OP almost 450 episodes with no end in sight though, gonna be pretty expensive.

Know what’s fun?

Referring to all this as ‘Japanese Cartoons’.

It’s technically accurate, and it drives people crazy. :smiley:

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