Cops are terrible at coverups. The kind of cop that gives you a ride home is a civil-servant cop, not a fake cop, and if a real cop says it’s a mountain lion, it’s probably a mountain lion. Deserts aren’t alll sand. The best research stations are out in the middle of woods. And nothing important is happening within walking range of you, as they’ve got plenty of real estate out in the middle of nowhere to work on. Sometimes a black helicopter is just a helicopter painted black, and I’ve seen 'em.
I don’t know what rifle, I assume they have the correct one (and I didn’t bother to read the rifle details in that post), and no, I don’t think they’re full of shit (at least not most of the time). And I don’t want to discuss JFK death theories, I just posted to point out the thing about the rifle.
I don’t think anything of black helicopters. If the government was trying to be sneaky with whatever they’re doing, they’d paint the helicopter like a news chopper. I see what you mean about the cop though. Only thing I don’t get, is how that even remotely sounded like a mountain lion to him. Imagine a hunter from L4D’s cream. Now make it louder, and turn up the pitch a little. I’ve heard a mountain lion before, and they don’t sound like that.
The interpretation of the UFO phenomenon as a “space ship” that “travels across the galaxy” isn’t necessarily the only interpretation. There are alternate understandings of the phenomenon that render questions of light-speed or wormholes irrelevant. The most “scientific” at this point being interdimensional travel, as modern scientific theory implies the existence of multiple undiscovered dimensions.
I do find the conspiracy theory that groups of people have been banding together across the world and making outlandish claims about UFO sightings in order to troll/attention whore the media to be comical.
I was gonna make a fake UFO sighting claim but then I realised, “I see slot of grim and creepy shit, it’s only a matter of time 'till it really happens” and that it annoys me when people fake it so the thought never really crossed my mind again.
As far as I understand it, that’s not how dimensions work. It’s not really a matter of interdimensional travel or undiscovered dimensions.
Each dimension is an extension of the dimensions below, in the same way that the second dimension is an extension of the first, the third of the second, etc.
There are 10 or 11 (?) dimension in total, and all of them are inseparable.
This is, in theory (valid or not), useful for space travel because travelling in the fourth dimension (in 4D space) effectively eliminates restrictions of time, because it allows you to travel from one point in 3D space to another directly.
I’m not going to pretend that I understand multidimensional theory, but how can you say the dimensions are “inseperable” when there are certain concepts that only exist in higher dimensions and not lower ones? i.e. “depth” doesn’t exist in 2-dimensional space, but it exists in 3-dimensional space. A 3-dimensional creature would look, dare I say, “alien,” to an entity who’s perception only operated in 2 dimensions. Humans can only perceive 3 dimensions directly, so we have no idea what is taking place in the remaining 7 or 8, we can only infer that they exist but not their content.
my great grandfather perceived fully a creature with 17 spacial dimensions one night in the trenches of ww1 and lost his mind
self-transforming machine elf, maybe?
What I meant was that all the dimensions are a whole, regardless of perception of entities that exist in any one of them. Intertwined may have been a better word to use.
In other words, each dimension is an integral part of the dimension above, and therefore it can’t exist without the ones above or below.
The way I see it, anything that exists is nothing more than a pattern in the omniverse.
Here’s an analogy. In a 3d world, a 2d object such as a plane is only visible when it is oriented towards the observer in such a way that it’s 2 dimensions (width and height) are observable. If it’s turned to the “side”, it is not perceptible to a 3 dimensional observer. As it rotates, it would seem to “appear” out of nowhere. The 3-dimensional observer might assume it to have “traveled” from somewhere, since from his perspective it was not there, and then it appeared. But in reality only the relative orientation between the two entities had changed.
And, to get into even freakier territory, imagine the 2d plane was under conscious control. If it intended to, it could become invisible or reveal itself to 3D entities at a whim, just by changing it’s own relative orientation. One could describe this action as “traveling” between dimensions, even though that wouldn’t be accurate in the technical sense of the word.
sometimes i like to imagine just stepping in some direction i never noticed before and all my organs fall out because it turns out there was really never anything holding em in place
As in spacetime?
Also, I’m pretty sure that the 11-dimensions is only in String theory.
Don’t worry, I know that. But it would be impossible for a two-dimensional entity to move itself in 3D space like you described, because that would require three-dimensional abilities, just like it is impossible for us to move in 4D space.
An object in the second dimension isn’t necessarily two-dimensional in the third dimension. The surface of a sphere, for example, has a three-dimensional shape, but in the second dimension it is flat.
The other way around is more interesting. If a 3D object was to move through a 2D plane, in the eyes of a 2D entity it would appear out of nowhere, constantly change shape depending on the shape of the 3D object, and then suddenly disappear.
You should watch this, it explains very well what I mean by the dimensions being an integral part of eachother.
i’m highly concerned that you don’t at all understand how the analogy I just made applies to the topic we’re discussing.
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I do, but it’s simply not correct. Something that exists in two dimensions can’t move itself in three dimensions.
If a 2D plane moves in 3D space, nothing that exists in the 2D plane will be aware of it.
Or maybe I’m just completely misunderstanding you.
Oh man they’re at it again
Yeah, you don’t seem to be getting how the analogy applies to the topic. You are taking it as a literal discussion of 2D planes and 3d cubes, when that’s not actually what we’re talking about. We’re talking about how a higher-dimensional object would appear in 3 dimensions. You said it yourself, (back to the analogy now) a cube moving in 2D space would seem to appear from nothing, and not necessarily resemble it’s actual form. This is the example I was going to use originally, but I incorrectly thought the plane analogy would be easier for to understand.
Again, there is a school of thought that believes UFOs are objects that occupy some of the higher dimensions than ours. To understand the hypothetical interaction between objects of different dimensional levels using the 2d/3d analogy, you can exchange the 3D cube with the term “UFO” and the 2D space with the concept of “our 3d world.” So taking what you posted earlier,
Therefore it would appear to “travel” even though it might not be moving through dimensions in the literal “point A to point B” sense of the term. That’s what I meant by interstellar travel, breaking the lightspeed barrier, etc, not necessarily being relevant to discussion of what the UFO phenomenon is.
This is also why all dimensions being “a whole” from an outside perspective isn’t relevant to the discussion, because we are talking about our own limited 3-dimensional perspective.
Oh, yes, I misunderstood you. I was going on a tangent. And I agree with what you said.
I was actually going to say the same thing about UFOs using higher dimensions for interstellar travel before you posted it, but I couldn’t be bothered :3