Windows 7 VS. OSX

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It depends on what business you look at. Over here, Macs are quite prominent in all sorts of business. I’ve worked at DG, and pretty much everyone apart from the customer accounts (that only mail and set up briefings in outlook/excell) use Macs over there. I’ve done internships at a couple of business, and they too generally work with Macs. The company I work for at the moment has about a 50-50 ratio of Mac and Windows, with a lot of people (like me) having both a Windows desktop and a Mac laptop at hand.

Then, when driving home through the city scape, I see lots of business that have Macs on the desks (like immo-agencies, interim-business, companies like Netlog, banks, schools, …) Of course this might be different over where you are.

I’d also like to add that I didn’t say that Mac is used more than Windows, since that would be a lie. A lot of companies still get Windows PCs because they’re cheaper. But not because they’re more reliable or compatible. In terms of professional life, Macs can open pretty much any filetype Windows can (the old times of “this file has been created on mac, can’t open” are far gone). Reliability doesn’t even come into the measurement, because any management will prefer lower costs over stability and reliability, always. And since Macs and PCs are as reliable as the other, companies will generally go for the cheapest ones.

Oh wait, I’m supposed to be the macfanboi that can’t stop crying about how shit Windows is and how Steve Jobs is a god amongst men. Sorry. LOL ur window is suq cuz i red on my fav site macsareftw.com dat windows is shit and like that windowsusrs are fat kids wit no life and dere mommys dont love dem ennuff so thy cant get a gud computer like a mac lololol

We have spoke about the desktops, but what the laptops? The Mac books, however expensive them may seem, look to be a decent laptop. How much would a notebook of equivalent build quality and features cost?

I’d like to know because i want a laptop that looks good, good features, tough with excellent battery lift. It can’t be a netbook, because the screen is too small.

Windows…is…less…stable. That’s not a particularly subjective opinion; that’s just a fact.

You do realise that the reason that this thread exists is because a group of people exist that are so short-sighted that they can’t even begin to even consider the possibility that there might be even the tiniest downside to the operating system they love. You pay 10 times what your operating system is worth, and religiously pay obscene amounts of money for cosmetic, processor-draining innovations that add nothing and subject everything, when they aren’t blatantly ripping off other people’s ideas.

Mac has gained popularity because, unlike its counterpart, it looks nice and functions well. Rather than having an ugly, problematic, effort-draining operating system, people have something that works. And if that costs you a little more, then so be it.

Continue to suck Bill Gates’ cock; continue to live your life in the sheltered hole that is the Windows programming ‘family’ while the rest of us can get on with other things (because we don’t spend half the day making our damn computer turn on).

Oh and just a small addendum; the reason that businesses stopped using Macs about 10-15 years ago was because Windows managed to pull ahead with cost and compatibility with 3rd party programs. Mac dropped the ball, in other words, not because they were a worse operating system, but because they became preferred by the industry for reasons that bear no relevance to the industry as it stands now. The reason that a lot of companies have now been shifting back is because Mac is actually the better and easier choice and, contrary to opinion, they have lower running costs and promote stability and compatibility, and don’t require you to have team of technicians making the whole thing work properly.

Srsly, Gates is not the CEO of Microsoft and hasn’t been for a while.

Tyrannical dictator, evil overlord, bringer of darkness - call him what you will.

Ninja’d about Bill gates not being CEO.

First off, my computer boots in a little over ten seconds. Because those greedy Microsoft assholes decided to give their consumers more of a choice in what they want to buy, i was able to spend half of what i would on a Mac Pro and get double the power. granted my case isn’t a shiny aluminium chassis, but i did enjoy having the option to build my computer with the lowest cost available for each part.

Second, i don’t use any spyware and haven’t had a virus in two years, the last time i had a virus was because i downloaded a file that would edit the COD4 launch EXE file so a CD would be unnecessary. You want to know what i did? I used that ‘terrible’ Windows Vista and did a system restore to the previous day. (something time machine ripped off).

Thirdly, i have used Macs and Linux based systems for the past 5 years. I am quite familiar with Mac OSX and its add-ons, as well as Linux ad most of it’s Distros. I prefer Windows because the majority of software is made for it. I’m not going to Dis Linux because they have an awesome philosophy on software, and if you can beat the learning curve, you can do almost anything. I will however dis Apple, or rather their ignorant User base. the reason why we look at Microsoft as this evil empire is because in the nineties, they were a little too good at business. between exclusive contracts with Intel to websites only being able to be seen by internet explorer, they were a monopoly. this was because they were a good company, profits soared in the 90’s allowing Bill Gates to become the billionaire he is today.
mac Users however, spend an absurd amount of money on their products because they have a boner for word like unibody and seem to think that Mac is the only platform where their needs will be met. they pay an extraordinary price for a product whose system specs on a windows PC three years ago would have been half the price. the consumer base is simply stupid, they have managed to trick the art crowd into think Photoshop only works well on a mac and that Final Cut pro is the only video editing app.

To make things short, look at what you paid for your Apple product (apple exclusive technology such as the iphone or ipod are not included), then look at the system specs and research the price for each individual part. Then take your fancy little OSX calculator and add them up, tell me how much you paid vs. how much the parts cost.

PS i already know if your using laptop ram from apple it will be ridiculous. I have 12GB of DDR3 that cost me $320 yet i saw 2GB of DDR2 advertised for the Macbook that cost $600.

ITT: Personal preference.

I have paid exactly $0 (€0) to Microsoft so far.

.exe

I paid $30 for Windows 7 Pro.

Worth. Every. Penny.

I didn’t realize that .exe was a common filetype you exchange with others so they can open it and see what work you’ve done on a document :< As a matter of fact, sending .exe through mail will end up with Outlook blocking it due to possibly being unsafe. That’s how great that .exe is and of what importance it is to professional life! Best filetype ever!

.exe is only one of the most used filetypes in windows.

The windows start menu and taskbar are in an exe file.

I was talking about actual workfiles, files people use to send to eachother so they can share documents and files etc. An .exe will open the file, obviously, but the same filetypes that require an .exe to open on Windows, have an equivalent on OSX in the form of an .app, and it’s those files that require the .exe or .app that I consider workfiles.

I have yet to see someone mail me and go “hey, check out this design of the minisite -> image01.exe”.

Too bad that because it can’t open .exe files, entire programs won’t work.
That’s like saying my phone can open .jpeg files too! That must mean it’s better than windows! :^/

your not making yourself look good.

One question I have, is what makes macs better at editing programs? I have photoshop on my mom’s mac and my computer and there’s really no difference, except the mac is slower at processing large pictures like panoramas and things of that nature. Also using ctrl+click.

If windows had final cut, would it still be better on a mac?

Am I truly the only person on this earth that doesn’t send .exe’s to people to show mockups, images, briefings etc?

When you’re creating something, be it in Word or or in Photoshop or in Flash or in Audacity or whatever, do you save it as .exe? Do you send that .exe to friends/coworkers for them to check it out? No, you create .doc, .psd, .fla, .wav or whatever to them so they can open it with Word.exe, Photoshop.exe, Flash.exe, Audacity.exe… Or on Mac: Word.app, Photoshop.app, Flash.app, Garageband.app.

And besides, if you’re going to fall over the fact that Mac’s aren’t compatible with certain filetypes (being .exe in this case), then I might as well call Windows incompatible because it can’t run .app or .dmg. But that’s not the point anyway, my point is that you can take a certain workfile (you know, the files that you use to save your work with (.doc, .jpg, .mp3, .avi, etc…)) and send it to either Windows or OSX and both will open that file, so the receiver can change stuff to that file in his OS and send it back to the source, rinse and repeat. The fact that OSX can’t run .exe and Windows can’t run .app has nothing to do with it at this level.

But hey, this seems to be the trend of the last few pages by you lot, finding things that have no relevance by either making it up or reading between the lines, and then hammering on about them and using more fanboy-flavoured flames than any of us “macfanbois” have so far.

And to answer an actual question: They’re not better nor worse for graphics than PCs, they’re pretty much the same thing, if not slower, depending on what Mac you’re using. But to me, the biggest seller for Mac, is the fact that OSX allows for better and faster workflow than Windows (which may have changed with Windows 7, je ne sais pas), so the time you may lose in pure hardware performance, you make up with working faster inside the OS. So in the end, neither is better or worse, it just comes down to what has your preference. For a lot of people it’ll be pure hardwarepower (and thus pick PC), I prefer less tedious workflow (so I picked Mac).

Programmers may be inclined to show their work in the form of .exes.

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