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I thought my sarcasm was so thick you could cut through it with a knife, but I guess I was wrong.

I usually have small dreams whilst trying to fall asleep, and for some reason they allways end with me falling onto concrete, and just before I land, I wake up, and get a shock from the impact O_o

Most of my dreams make no sense. They have no logic to them at all. The only dream that made sense to me that I still remember now is where I was in the shower with two hot cheerleaders. One was a brunette and the other a blonde. I was in the brunette’s vagina and the blonde was rubbing her vagina against my butt. While I have had other dreams about women, this is the only one that made sense and the only dream that I remember.

Me neither.

Well, true. And it’s not quite never - once or twice a year I’ll be woken mid-dream quickly enough to have a hazy recollection of something, but left to my own devices sleep is a simply a complete blank in my memory from when I can’t keep my eyes open any more to when my alarm goes off.

More like many times a night.

Nope. The human brain needs to dream, or it gets seriously fucked up. If you really weren’t dreaming (I saw a documentary where they forcibly prevented volunteers from entering REM sleep, the stage in your sleep cycle where you dream) you would start dreaming while still awake. Not just ‘daydreaming’ - full on hallucinations.

@ Lolipopman
That’s also a hypnogogic hallucination. People with hypnogogia experience strange sensations on the verge of actually falling asleep. These range from visible shapes and colors, to smells, to actual tangible sensations, such as falling or being struck. Usually the shock jolts the person from that verge of sleep. Sometimes, sufferers, such as myself, experience terrible bouts where the person is unable to sleep for hours because the hypnogogic hallucinations start over and over, and prevent you from doing so.

I’ve had falling sensations, but I’ve also had a hallucination where I was watching a car race, and one of them crashed. The car bulged and was about to explode, and that’s when I woke up.

I also see objects and people from my everyday life grow bigger or smaller. It’s weird.

EDIT: I didn’t see the conversation took a turn for the awesome.

Dreaming is required for the brain so that it can sort through all the shit you saw and learned. Without it, your brain gets used to the point of uselessness.

I remember the study Bean mentioned. They allowed people to nap and rest, but once they entered REM, they were woken up. The effects were quite comical after a week.

I love discussing dreaming. :slight_smile:

Don’t be such a pedant. If sleep paralysis didn’t set in 99 times out of a hundred when people go to sleep, every single person who could walk would sleepwalk every single night, as soon as they started dreaming (unless someone was dreaming of lying very still or something). Sleep paralysis is what stops it from happening, and when it’s not working properly it’s either you waking up during it, or it not setting in properly and leading to sleepwalking or night terrors.

Thanks, bean.

I read somewhere that you can choose what you dream, and to remember it, if you just ‘tell’ yourself to right before you fall asleep. I’ve tried it a couple of times, but it didn’t work, so I suppose it’s bullshit.

It is. Dreaming is basically just randomly sorting through shit you’ve learned. That’s why dreams usually don’t make sense.

Except, as mentioned previously in this thread, some people can and do have lucid dreams, in which they are aware they are dreaming and sometimes can alter the course of their own dream at will.

I know, but since there are ways to enforce lucid dreaming, I didn’t think it was too far fetched for that to be possible too.

Edit: @Winged One

I love it when I realize I’m dreaming and don’t wake up on that realization.
It’s like a dev console. :smiley:

I find I remember dreams if I try and explain them to someone while I still remember them or write them down. It’s a weird feeling though, because your mind is constantly trying to erase it while you’re trying to jot it down.

I get Deja Vu way too often. Why is it always something completely mundane?

Anyway, in terms of lucid dreaming, you basically take control of what your brain is actually sifting through. It’s the same concept as a regular dream, but there’s less entropy and more control.

I usually remember at least one dream from the night before if it stood out as interesting. There was one dream, for instance, where I had a brain tumor, so they sliced open the back of my head and swung my back-and-forth until my entire brain popped out of my head. I felt it all.

Then there’s a recurring dream where I have to use the toilette, but theres something always wrong. Either it’s in the middle of a crowded room or the door leaves a foot worth of a gap that everyone crowds around, the bowl is too big so I have to prop myself up with my hands, or, like last night, it’s too high meaning I have to really adjust my angle of piss or climb up to take a shit. Either way, if I’m taking a piss, it gets everywhere.

And if I have to take a shit, there’s always this HUGE restroom with hundreds of stalls placed haphazardly around.

In short.

A lucid dream is one where you are concious to what you are doing an can control your actions to an extent.

The first time I took acid, when I went to sleep, I was concious thought the whole 12 hour sleep.

Epic, epic dreams.

Dude how do you sleep on acid? That stuff keeps me up for like 24 hours.

= dev console

I took 2 tabs.

I was up for 34 hours, then took a 18 hour sleep.

Concious through the whole thing.

yesterday i was tripping shrooms and today i had those dreams, but no acid or shrooms can be compared to GABA agonists with their long memorable realistic dreams.

I had way too much cheese once before bed and dreamt I was Sir Anthony Hopkins eating Ray Liotta’s brains.

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