UK Riots.

Don’t worry, let Jeannotvb explain. He’s good at that

This political stuff… I don’t get it. Is it because I don’t watch television?

I don’t watch TV btw.

The fact that they were there not only to conquer the countries but also to exterminate the Slavs is exactly the reason why they really fought back to the nazis. But I guess that in order to qualify as having really fought back you first have to lose a few million men, not a few hundred thousands like the French did. But I don’t blame you, you’re a man of the state after all.

Are you talking about Stalin’s purge that killed thousands of people and crippled the Red Army at a time when the Germans were massing massive armies on their borders (well actually before that, but Germany was still a major threat)? Or hundreds of thousands of soldiers that were sent to Siberia and the Gulag (brought to you by the government)? Do you think those people loved the Soviet state? Also, in case you forgot, the Soviet state collapsed, so I don’t know where you’re trying to go with this.

lol television

German, Allies and Soviet military losses are proportionate. Hop off your high horse.

And that just shows what an ignoramus you are, living in the world of political and economic speculations (which amusingly stems from Goebbels works).

Now if you gonna use this - care to explore what were the reasons and what people were behind the collapse?
Was it because of Stalin’s system (which ceased to exist by late 50s) too? :lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

Kinda sad I have to refer to Wikipedia all the time, even a baby by now knows how to use Google.

great, showing me a wikipedia article in english full of speculations and numbers pulled out of Solzhenitzin’s arse surely tops the real documented statistics and the census that are now freely available at state archives.
Shows how you are being educated there.
Look, I’m safe to say that I know the history of my ancestors and the country they lived in a lot more better than you.

Thank you for playing, lolcow. Go tell about gulags and purges to someone who will gladly pay for it.

As if the actual number of people being sent there matters, the state is still responsible for these horrible crimes. Which is what I was trying to show you, but for some reason all you care about are the actual numbers. As if a few less deaths is going to make it look any better, what a nice person you must be.

Would you two shut up?

You just don’t know how to stop, do you, moralfag?
Don’t speculate on what you have no idea about.

Now STFU pl0x

Would you just concentrate your willpower and just walk along? :slight_smile:

WWII communism and modern day democracy aren’t really comparable though, are they?

I’m still failing to understand how, under anarcho-capitalism, wrongdoing is punished. Their reputation is ruined? Please. In order for that to have any effect at all would require much more “government” than we have now. And isn’t that the initiation of force against this wrongdoer?

After all, the wrongdoer only harmed one entity but other entities are now initiating force against the wrongdoer who the wrongdoer didn’t do anything to. Also, Jean, how does one fight back against incorrect reputation harming (slander/libel)? You didn’t do anything wrong but you’re still “on the list”, as it were.

Your “anarcho-capitalism” just cannot work in the world, Jean. Without a centralized way of providing consequences for wrongdoing, then wrongdoing will fester and metastasize.

The government doesn’t “initiate force” regardless of how many times you try to assert that it does.

Stop paying your taxes and you’ll find out.

As for your other questions, go read a book and do some research, the questions you ask are very common when it comes to (free market) anarchism.

I’m just here to say I am an anarcho-capitalist and I don’t support the riots in the UK. Don’t like it? Baww.

edit:

Before you’re going to accuse me of evading your questions, here I did a quick scroll through the Wiki, something you could have done.

So, you’re advocating theft?

Excuse me, but I have read the Wiki page you provided and it didn’t answer my question. Private industry would just take the role of government and would then be responsible for that “force initiation” that you claim to hate so much.

You fool. Do you even know why you pay tax? We pay taxes to keep ourself protected, our roads in good shape, our health, to keep law and order, to educate our young and to stop people starving on the streets.
If you think that our government is so shit and they take all our money because QQ moan moan, why don’t you become a politician and change it?

…don’t get any pension or benefits when you hit 60.

Or at least do it right by working on how to evade them. And be sure to launder a lot of moneys so you don’t bitch later when you’re out of the saved 10%.

Seriously though, do you even know why you are able to work in any particular country? And who ensures working conditions?

I’m not talking about fraudulent U.S. income tax (you don’t have to pay by constitution btw). This is embezzlement - but your libertarian bullshit does not guarantee that not happening.

Problem is, kid doesn’t have any knowledge about the subject while pretending to be an expert as per how real life works.

…or get to ride on government roads, or get government protection of food and drugs, or get access to clean air, or…

Here’s a little thing for Jean to read (warning: Wall of text, but please read it in full):


Joe gets up at 6:00 AM to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employer’s medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It’s noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dad’s; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republicans would still be sitting in the dark.)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show. The host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day)

Joe agrees. “We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.”


And Jean suggests that all these things that Joe consumes throughout his day should not be paid for…thereby advocating theft of services. Jean, what should we do with people that take things without paying for them?

Thing is, if I would have to be 100% honest - U.S. and U.K. may be the biggest cunts on the political arena and may have slanted ‘freedom of speech’ and rape their own constitution, their media may spew bullshit propaganda and californication levels go off-scale there - but their Social Security levels were always very high, despite of whether they deserve them or not.

The ways they have chosen to get there are surely questionable (at the very least) - but that’s another story altogether.

Do you really believe what you’ve write ? Because liberals died with the welfare state few decades ago.

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