Islam is a religion, not a race.
Sorry, i meant he isn’t muslim.
Muslim means people who practice Islam, not people from the Middle East.
Where did i say Islam is limited to the middle east?
“from other countries” doesnt mean “from the middle east”
Hasn’t it been established he was a Christian fundamentalist or something? They won’t blame Muslims, the only people who say that have a persecution complex.
Its a stupid thing to do, yes, but its not “phobic”. That implies an unreasonableness, when a majority of modern terrorist attacks (last ten years, say) have been the result of Islamic Extremists.
that’s what the media “spots” it’s light on my friend, they simply ignore all other violent acts, they do this so you can assume that the world is only troubled by “Bloodthirsty Muslims”
The summary could work as follows. I hate one religion and now I will go shoot a selection of people because I feel pissed off.
Without especial reference because I’m feeling mildely irritated right now
The shooter idiot ends in histories refuse
Except it wasn’t about religion, it was about politics.
He’s xenophobic and wanted to get noticed.
The man has been described as a right-wing extremist (Christian or not makes no difference). Aswell as anti-muslim, anti-feminism and anti-socialism.
I live in Sweden, the sistercountry of Norway. We’ve had history with them for as long as our countries have existed. And this tragedy is just horrendous.
I’ve noticed that what we can read in the papers and websites here, cannot be found in foreign papers for some reason.
Probably because it hasn’t been translated yet.
I can honestly say that I’m not easily touched by things like this, I’m not emotional or easily devastated when horrible acts are displayed.
I’m too numbed by the realization that this is what the world is like today.
However… I had tears in my eyes as I was reading all about what happened, the testimonies from the survivors, the videos shot from boats and helicopters.
Things like teens trying to save younger children by swimming across the fjord with them, and the children that didn’t have the courage to swim were murdered on the shore as people could do nothing but watch and keep swimming to survive.
His thoroughness to shoot wounded people in the head with a shotgun to make sure they are dead. Kids trying to play dead to survive were executed.
And those who survived had to endure watching the people they care for being executed as they lie there crying, wounded and helpless. Girlfriends and siblings murdered before your eyes.
How the children on the island tried to reach out on both twitter and facebook, asking for help, and urging people not to call anyone on the island because everyone was trying to hide.
That’s just a few things that makes me, personally, sick to my stomache. I cannot fathom that this has happened, so close to home.
The deaths are over 90 now, both from the island massacre and the bombing of a government building in Oslo. Some kids are still missing, presumed to have drowned in the harsh fjords they were braving to escape the madman.
He calls himself the “knight templar”, which is why he’s painted out to be a christian extremist. He planned this for nine years. Dressed up as a police officer to lure the children out under false sense of safety, just to mow them down. He also quoted the Una bomber.
This is the worst terrorist that Europe has ever faced.
he’s a supremacist that wanted to purge the impure. Stop making him look desperate. Dude’s a stone cold stunna
He quotes the unabomber? Funny. The unabomber was an anarchist.
This guy is a monster. Here’s his line of reasoning (if you can even degrade the word reason so much):
-i want to change the world to suit my views.
-kill children.
Good one, fucking psychopath.
anyone who commits murder, admits to it and then denies that it was a criminal act is obviously hopeless and should be used in some dangerous and painful medical experiments until death
Now, I know something inside me wants to kidnap him and do the chinese water torture with different kinds of acids on every inch of his body on him.
But these situations are a perfect way for a country and society to prove their degree of civilization by just treating him like anyone else. As sad as this story is, Norway has a chance to prove its culture and intelligence as a people by somber mourning and a quick and efficient justice system:
- Desocialization.
- Trial.
- Punitive resocialization. Though I don’t think any society will accept him in future.
This is giving me the creeps btw. IF he dies in the next few days, I will be very thoughtful.
I can’t believe people think of mass murderers like this. Sure he’s a meanie, but god damn, you’ve got to admire the fact that he saw what he felt was a problem and took it into his own hands. It’s like vigilante justice to him.
Wishing someone gruesome pain and death doesn’t mean shit. He was smart enough to figure this out. His actions have spoken louder than the words of any of you
Using that reasoning you can justify every single evil act since the dawn of man.
It’s not reasonable to believe that taking actions into ones own hands is necessarily a good thing, it’s completely and utterly situational.
Yes, you can argue that he did something he believed in, and he did it good.
But you CANNOT argue that what he did is in any way considered a good, honourable, or necessary thing.
What this man did, was nothing. He achieved absolutely nothing but the grief of a nation, a nation that has withstood much worse things in history.
If anything, he razed his own beliefs and made way for the success of an even greater nation, so ultimately he failed.
His actions haven’t actually said anything, and if they ever do it will only alienate those of similar thoughts. The man didn’t see a problem and took it into his own hands, he saw a problem and then killed a bunch of people for no real reason.
Not really the worst terrorist Europe has ever seen either. A truly bad terrorist would actually gain support from many people and lead to something, IRA style. This guy just killed people and will fade from history like everyone else, if he is alone.
Even if 100% of those that practice Islam commit acts of terrorism does NOT mean that this person was Muslim.
All cats are animals, but not all animals are cats.
Blaming this on Islam before you have evidence that he is even a Muslim is just mightily stupid and, yes, Islamophobic. Because acts of terrorism are NOT limited to the religion of Islam.