Time Travel

Actually, slowing down & speeding up time is not only possible, but it’s proven. Gravitational time dilation is the theory that gravity affects the flow of time, the stronger the gravitational field, the slower time flows in it. This has been proven to some degree by comparing stationary atomic clocks to ones in airplanes & satellites.

Don’t use the phrase “strings” when you talk about dimensions, otherwise people might think you’re dumb enough to believe string theory.

Hahahahahaha that’s the stupidest stance I’ve ever seen someone take on the Bible. If you were an atheist who did any sort of investigation into the Bible instead of forming a convoluted opinion about it out of thin air, you would realize that there’s historical background to it and that Christ did indeed exist. What you choose to believe or not believe beyond that is up to you, but saying the entire book is a fabrication is just plain ignorant.

There is actually no contemporary evidence that the Jesus of the Bible existed, but evidence that the character was cobbled together from other people (such as Dionysus). Like Harry Potter mentioning London and Kings Cross station, the Bible has certain elements of “truth” and “fact”, but wrapped into a completely fictional story.

Now, if we could take a time machine back to that time period to get contemporary evidence… :wink:

I’ve heard many opinions on Christ and his ministry from atheists and believers alike; the assertion that he never existed at all has been rare. In my experience, anyway. Not saying that this is proof he did, necessarily, but apologetics and critical historians alike seem to agree that there was a man named Jesus who ministered around the flip from BC to AD.

I’m not asserting that he never existed. I’m saying that there’s no contemporary evidence for the person named “Jesus” (Iesus, whatever). The first actual definitive mentions of the man named “Jesus” seems to have cropped up much later, like in the 300s or something (I could find the actual information but CBA and getting ready for bed).

There could’ve been a man around the turn from BC to AD (though, at the time, it wasn’t called that) that eventually became the inspiration for Jesus, but I suspect he would’ve been very different from the Bible character. Christ is a title, much like “judge” or “prince” and Jesus wasn’t the only “Christ”.

That’s what they want you to think! /conspiracyface

Also, Jesus or any other bible character could have existed, but they wouldn’t have special Jesus powers. For example, Jesus could be real, but he didn’t turn water to wine or walk on an ocean or Moses in the old testament (I don’t know what the jews holy book is called) he couldn’t just split the Nile.

The majority view is that the Gospels were written in large part between 50 and 110 AD. (“earliest known copies” =/= “when it was written”) They contain definitive mentions of the man named “Jesus”.
110 =/= 300

like every thread in the mass debating hall, this has turned into a religious debate.

[citation needed]

Note: The evidence MUST be contemporary, not added later by another person.

Not at all. Historicity of events in a time travel thread =/= Religious debate.

Don’t deceive yourself. This is a religious debate.

We’re not talking about a deity or other supernatural force…we’re talking about the existence of a person.

We’re talking about TIME TRAVEL.

Which would prove/disprove the existence of said person. :wink:

Doc Brown: “Come here, I’ll show you how it works. First, you turn the time circuits on. This readout tell you where you’re going, this one tells you where you are, this one tells you where you were. You input the destination time on this keypad. Say, you wanna see the signing of the Declaration of Independence, or witness the birth or Christ. Here’s a red-letter date in the history of science, November 5, 1955. Yes, of course, November 5, 1955.”
Marty: “What, I don’t get what happened.”
Doc: “That was the day I invented time travel.”

Someonerandm is right, all of the discussion about religious crap up to this point has been about “is it or is it not true” & not “can or can’t it be proven”

Personally I think time travel would only be possible within a localized field, like in Primer (I always end up bringing up that piss-boring movie) where time travel was limited to the confides of the machine itself. My reasoning for thinking this is because time is not a universal constant. In order for a time machine to go back in time to a point in history before the time machine was made, you’d need to alter the flow of time outside the machine. In other words that would be like trying to rewind the movement of the earth & by extension you’d pretty much need to do the same to the entire universe which would require infinite amounts of energy.

Sry, late, but here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel#Origin_of_the_canonical_gospels
Btw, Wikipedia is in no way a fundimentalist christian site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Gospels

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