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here, something to ease your boredom https://drawception.com/play/

Maybe, but constructed languages (“conlangs”) are an assload of work and are never truly complete. It’s much more rewarding (for the effort) to stick to a constructed alphabet… to create a system of writing (to write languages you already know).

There are a variety of options when creating a writing system. Something like Chinese is syllabic, or you can use letters like the Latin we’re used to. Things can be written with letter-by-letter glyphs, or in a script like Arabic, and diacritics can be added to do whatever you want. Sometimes consonants are the only “letters” and vowels show up as diacritical marks only… as is the case with Hebrew and Tengwar.

Also, your new alphabet or writing system doesn’t need to abide by standard line-order. You are free to write it right-to-left… or bottom-to-top… or diagonally, if you please (but I’ve yet to see a system do that). The options don’t stop there. An alphabet which I created which uses boustrophedon, for instance: When I reach the next line, I begin writing backwards (with mirrored letters).

Is there a lowercase? Are there more than two cases? How is it punctuated?

It can be as complex or simple as you wish it to be. At every step you may consider the utility of your new alphabet, with questions like “Could this letter be confused for another”… and "Is there a history for this shape to make sense as this letter"… and “How fast is this to write compared to other alphabets”… and "Can I make this any prettier without sacrificing other traits"…

day 5 of being high every single minute im awake this is like science or some shit

I’m sure Donald Glover is a funny guy, but I can’t get into his stand-up. “But, like, um, when, um, you, like, you know, um, like…”

(also his music is shit)

I just downloaded VTF Explorer. I’m a bit confused… which .gcf should I use for reference to replace files in HL2/eps? source materials/models/sounds or source 2007 shared materials/models/sounds?

I just want to see which files from BM have a counterpart in HL2 (same location/filename), and replace them accordingly.

That could be fun. I could try to make an extremely primitive alphabet based off of cuneiform or something, which we’ve actually been studying in class if I’m not mistaken.

You may have just given me a reason to actually pay attention in class.

The whole conlang discussion is interesting. Its almost impossible to construct an entire language, but it adds immersion to reference a language being used other than English. In my novel, for example, the plural marker is “ni” which attaches at the end of a word to signify plurality. The main atogonistic province is the Province of Vashni. “Vash” roughly equates to “conqueror”, thus Province of Conquerors. The reader is never told hoe the language works or what the words individually mean, but names are sometimes translated (the antagonistic leader is called the Vash’Mohrt which is translated as “Voracious Conqueror”). And the deities are called the Torem’hetni, AKA Sky Deities.

A few consistent name suffixes also aid to relate titles to the reader.

That sounds like fun, but unfortunately, I don’t have much room at all in this story for making up languages; the prevalence of english is actually a plot point. :frowning:

Just use Spanish nobody will notice.

A conlang based on Spanish would be named Esperanto. :3

I bet I can just write english words in a made-up alphabet and pass it off as a conlang.

My boss bought a new printer and PC for the office today. I haven’t opened them yet though. Maybe in the morning…

Is it a nice PC?

Yup. A few of these well-known fictional alphabets were simply made to mask English. Futurama’s alien text is a letter-by-letter replacement of the Latin alphabet.

Masking English is especially effective if you work phonetically. For instans, Ahy’m aybl tw tuyp th Iynglish layngwaj luyk this. … That’s plain old English written the way I hear it. But when I write it in my own alphabet, it looks foreign:

My alphabet is going to seem familiar, though, because I took heavy inspiration from Latin, Greek, and Cyrillic. It shouldn’t take an Earth scholar long to decode phrases scribed in this “Rubric” alphabet. With different letters, though, it would be fairly difficult to realize that the language written is phonetic English rather than nonsense.

A good example of some text which is unknown due to its unique method of writing is the Voynich manuscript.

Yeah, that thing’s damn creepy.

I’m probably going to try to write my own alphabet like a combination of Cuneiform and Phoenician; the idea is that it’s a primitive script written by a race that rapidly rose to sapience but had difficulties developing or using any sort of technology. It’ll hopefully look like something designed to be scratched into cave walls with claws.

brb creating dolphin alphabet :retard: able to be written as a series of nose-imprints in sand

Oh come on, it’s not that silly of an idea. :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: I mean, I chose cuneiform specifically because it was designed to be made as a series of marks carved into soft clay; it’s not a big leap from there to carving something into sandstone walls.

Edit 2: Is it too silly? I’m not actually sure myself, I kinda mentioned it because I want an outside opinion on my ridiculous idea to work a race of sapient dragons into a science fiction setting. I keep flipping back and forth between thinking that it’s a retarded idea and thinking that it works really well for story purposes. I’m just not sure. Anyone want to offer any feedback?

Oh I wasn’t criticizing, I was actually brainstorming. Your concept seems original and I noticed a real-world corollary of an intelligent thing (dolphin) with extremely limited means with which to apply its intelligence.

We’ve taught gorillas sign-language. It’s sad that nobody has tried to teach a dolphin to read/write. I really think what’s holding dolphins back is that they can’t hold lectures in the middle of an ocean.

As for the concept, intelligent dragons has been done before according to TV Tropes, with dragons often seen as wise and long-lived… but rarely is there mention of how they pass around knowledge (or the difficulties they might have in doing so).

HOWEVER… Omniglot has knowledge of something that fits almost exactly what you’re drafting. You’re free to proceed with your own version of the concept, with perhaps your designs being more elegant. Perhaps it’s comfort to know that you’re not the only one who has tried giving dragons something meaningful to scratch.

OK, thank you. That’s actually pretty reassuring.

northern lights doesn’t usually give me a headache, ~weird~

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