The Black OPS make no sense

Huh, so it is Breen. Awesome. Again though, only Valve know what it all means.

It clearly means that after you destroyed the portal at the end of HL2 Breen got shifted into an alternate dimension, gaining unimaginable powers and becoming the G-man. Thus setting everything up so that he would be created so he could take over the world.

No I’m not really being serious.[/size]

No shit lol. Funny how no reference to Breen has been made since Ep1’s recording. Wonder if Valve really did permanently kill him off…

I cant wait to find out

That Breen stuff is awesome

I don’t really agree with G-Man being Breen.

Maybe Breen is protected by G-Man, and maybe G-Man has saved him in the portal explosion. Like he did (or tried) with Gordon.

Or maybe we’re all wrong, and G-Man is who we’d never thought, like a headcrab.

edit: Why do I have the feeling that this is just a bit off-thread?

Why do I get the feeling you didn’t read properly when he said he wasn’t being serious?

Fix’d. Couldn’t resist it, sorry… :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t think Breen is gone.
But…

And yeah, I don’t think Episode 3 is going to be enough to solve all the mysteries anyway.

Wait, I thought this was the Episode 3 thread for a second.

Ask Marc Laidlaw.

Marc Laidlaw can ask me.

To bring this thread back on track, and to address those that are confused about the marines/whatever killing scientists and trying to blow Black Mesa up, I say this:

Seriously?

How can it be confusing - a government cover-up is one of the most clichéd and used plots in science/alien themed stories. It happens on some level in almost every alien/secret research facility-gone-wrong book, game and movie ever made. How on earth can it be confusing? A bunch of military-type people were sent in to cover up the aliens / research centre so that the secrets/aliens etc don’t get out to the rest of the planet. That’s it. Simple. It’s not a new concept.

Same with the G-man. People try to read FAR too much into him, especially in HL1. At that stage he was just another cliche - a mysterious official looking man that seems to always be around and have something to do with the aliens and subsequent cover up - added to the story to spice it up. Then they added the twist that he had some sort of powers etc at the end and he whisked you off somewhere.

That’s about it, and tbh that’s probably as far as Valve planned in HL1 with the G-man and military cover up. People seem to try to read much more into these things when there’s not much more to them. They’re just almost mandatory story elements of an alien/secret facility story. Of course with so much interest Valve have developed the G-man further now, but it seems he began as just a sci-fi cliché character, nothing more.

Anyone disagree?

I actually do think Breen is gone, Valve doesn’t really rely on twists too much. Valve’s style is much more “… and then things got worse.” Even Mossman’s betrayal and subsequent redemption were fairly straightforward, and it’s really the closest thing to a “twist” I can think of. As far as Valve’s style goes, Breen’s death probably happened, and without any odd side effects. Any twist that happens is likely to be with the G-man and/or the identity of his employers, and again, given the track record so far even that is likely to be fairly straight forward regardless of how socking or revealing it is at the same time.

I don’t think he meant Black OPS qua Black OPS, the fact that they were there to do a cover-up was straightforward, but rather exactly how Black OPS fits into the cover-up hierarchy in the grand scheme of things, which isn’t well explored (not that it needs to be).

If he meant the black ops as in the assassins, they’re just another arm of the military pretty much in HL. Different soldiers for different roles - in the grand scheme of things they were just another model and enemy to deal with to add a bit of change to the game.

we should just accept that jake is a moron and leave it at that.

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