Maybe he should stick to the WYSIWYG editor. 
I agreed thatās why I liked your post but thatās just a question of imagination.
ORā¦ they should add a line that would say they will take your suit when chose to work with G-man and/or the chance-less battle.
I think the line is fine as-is. Gordon DOES get to keep the suit. Heās just not wearing it at the start of HL2.
And donāt forget the lines from Kleiner in āRed Letter Dayā:
Itās clear that itās the same HEV suit from HL1 but with āa few modificationsā. Iād say to leave the line as-is.
Iām sure that after all the years that have been spent on this that the BM creators have arrived at a very long thought out decision on how to end their creation. Personally, I donāt think thereās any need at all in discussing it. However, if it doesnāt end appropriately then we should all ask for our money back!
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Iām asking for my money back either way.
It ends with a dancing gman gif.
Oh I see. I havenāt noticed that.
Whatever he is wearing under the HEV suit. I guess we donāt rightly know what he really wears under that.
Well, something like that, G-Man can say something like, āAs for the suit, I think you earned it, I will keep it for you, until you need it.ā Or something like that.
No, the way it happens does not make any sense, he apparently takes your suit from you. During the ending of the first game, your HUD would disappear while talking with G-Man, so it is safe to say that he takes it from you in the first game. He then somehow delivers it to Kleiner?
Though it makes little sense, how can it be exactly same suit. Did G-Man delivered to him? It has been 10 years since they saw Gordon Freeman, last they have seen him, he was wearing the HEV suit, if it is exactly same suit (and not one similar to it), why arenāt they asking him how he lost the suit in the first place?
Though he canāt really answer. 
20yrs. actually, not 10. HL2 takes place in 202-.
I personally think that some scientists at Black Mesa did, in fact, know G-Man, just like Eli knows him, and also know what happened more precisely. I assume that, provided itās the same suit, but modified, not another one, G-Man simply gave it to Kleiner after putting Freeman in stasis, so that he will be able to use it when the time comes.
Now that I come to think, thereās something rather intriguing.
Most (if not actually all) of the people in HL2 are surprised when they see Gordon back, but none of them is actually shocked (after all, most wouldāve assumed that Freeman died during the Xen battle with Nihilanth, since he returns after 20 yrs. and no one heard anything about him since then), none of them have reactions like ,Wow, is that really you? Butā¦ I though you died 20yrs ago during the BM Incident,.
IMO a number of people know what happened during this period, at least partially. This is pretty much a ,G-Man conspiracy theory, (to say so), but there are quite a few questions left unanswered to this date. Guess weāll never know for sure until HL3 comes out (if it comes out at all).
We have a member that used to go by BoxN00b and you really confused me for a sec.
Interesting. But no, weāre not the same person (just sayinā).
It could happen. You donāt know what happened over the ~20 years. And how could Kleiner make the necessary modifications to the suit if Gordon was wearing it while in stasis? I think G-Man was simply saying that Gordon gets to keep the suit (unlike the guns he received through his travels through the facility) but facilitated its upgrade from Kleiner so it had to be removed from his person for the time being.
Yep. When Barney introduces Gordon to Kleiner, he says, āI expected more warningā and Barney says, āYou and me both, Doc.ā Itās apparent that at least they knew Gordon would return, but didnāt know when. And it appears that Breen knew something about it too, as he tells the advisor during the transporter āmalfunctionā, āIām almost certain it wasā¦ Gordon Freeman.ā
I think they all knew Gordon would be back and, for Kleiner, heād have to upgrade the suit for Gordonās eventual return. Thatās why he had it all set up in the closet ready to go. They were prepared for Gordonās return.
Yeah, I forgot that. I think it was said to be 10 years at first, but then they changed it to 20.
Some surely did, Eli Vance, Wallace Breen and a few others, but not all of them. Kleiner for instance, I donāt think he knows anything about G-Man. Just like how Barney and Alyx doesnāt even know he exists. (Barney was out of reach, so he never met G-Man and Alyx was too young to remember)
So what might have happened is something like, G-Man took your HEV suit and delivered it to Eli Vance, whom in turn gave it to Kleiner, possibly guessing Gordon might return someday.
About the stasis part, I donāt think Gordon Freeman was ever in stasis, or sleeping like some claim, he was awake the whole time, just not 20 years, only a few moments. He was teleported in a place where time is very slow compered to ours (like the edge of a black hole), so for him, it was just a few moments, but for the rest of the world, 20 years had passed.
What I found more intriguing is that, no one is shocked about how he hasnāt aged a day. He was a young scientist at Black Mesa, only 27 years old. 20 years later he should have been 47 years old (too old to date Alyx , Eli even jokes about Gordon and Alyx getting together.) and no one bats an eye. No one even mentions it.
My point was, he takes it from you in the first game, not while in stasis (and it probably wasnāt a stasis, more like a time dilation thing. He puts you in a place time passes really slow.) And he probably doesnāt deliver it to Kleiner directly. G-Man doesnāt make contact with everyone, he only makes contact with people that will help his and his employers agenda. (If he contacted everyone he ever sees, he wouldnāt be mysterious, it would be a mess. He doesnāt get involved in everything, he was even hesitant to save Alyx as a child, even though Eli knew about him at that point.) G-Man probably delivers the HEV suit to either Eli (who gaves it to Kleiner), or it appears out of nowhere.
And as the HEV suit was removed from Gordon for a time being, adding an extra like would serve that. At the Black Mesa ending, G-Man should say something to reflect that.
The problem is with that, Barney didnāt know about G-Man. He never met him. (remember Blue Shift?) What they could have meant with that, is something like, āI would have heard about it if something like that happened.ā They monitor combine movements, they watch everything closely. Thats why they have a man inside (Barney of course)
And Breen just seemed surprised. Not because he knew about it, but maybe because he was told and didnāt believe it. (does that make sense? I donāt think I am explaining what I think correctly.)
Also, Kleiner is a scientist, he like tinkering stuff. Even if Gordon never returned, a HEV suit would be useful for rebels. Of course he would work on it, he doesnāt need another reason for that. (An upgraded HEV suit is always more useful) And probably it wasnāt prepared for Gordon, maybe Kleiner was just finished upgrading it or he was still working on it to improve upon it. (maybe it was meant for someone else. Maybe Barney or Alyx even.) Or maybe he was keeping it around for one day they may need it. They were trying to blend in and it is a hazard suit, you wouldnāt wear it unless you had a reason for it. (the rebellion movement was slow back then.)
Actually I think that from the former Science Team, Eli and Breen knew A LOT more about Gordon, G-Man, and the events. Breen even says at the end of HL2: ,Do you know that your contract was opened to the highest bidder?, , which clearly implies that G-Man sold Gordonās services to someone. Also when he dies, he even screams ,YOU NEED ME!!,. Thatās very interesting. What if Breen survived? There still is actually a theory which implies that Breen DID in factā¦ well not ,survive, (to say so) but transferred his memories to an Advisor seen in Episode One, when that recording from the end of HL2 is seen.
What if Breen still exists? What would he do now?
,Who, is that someone is open for speculation so far. Some believe that theyāve been sold to the Combine, but I personally donāt know what to say about this. It certainly is a theory, but given how mysterious G-Man is, that ,clients, could be very well someone else we have no idea about yet.
I donāt think that Barney and Alyx know about G-Man either. We donāt know much about Barneyās past in detail so it could be a possibility, but he never meets him in Blue Shift nor mention/make references to him in HL2 (as a matter of fact, are there are G-Man sightings BS?).
I very much doubt the theory that Alyx know anything about G-Man. She was way too young when the BM Incident took place, and since Eli hates everything that happened back then, Iām strongly inclined to deny the idea of him telling Alyx about G-Man. Damn sure he wanted to forget about the past.
But of course that doesnāt mean that Alyx is of no use to him. He does make some strong implications during the cutscene in This Vortal Coil in Episode 2 that he acted ,in the face of objections, that she was a mere child and of no practical use to anyone, and ,heās not one to squander his investments and remained confident that she was worth far more than the initial appraisal,. He surely has something in store for Alyx.
Curios about Shepherd tbh. I think itās inevitable that weāll eventually see one day his return, but Iām curious about the circumstances. The story has great potential here. Will Gordon be his enemy? Will they be allies of some sort? Someday weāll find out.
As about ,HEV Suit kept for someone else other than Gordon,ā¦ no, Iām highly suspicious toward this idea. It could also be kept as a sort of ,artifact, honestly, in Freemanās memory. The reason for keeping the suit and even improving it still remains unknown, there are just too many possibilities here.
And ,Gordon hasnāt aged a bit and no one cares, , yeah, thatās by far the most interesting thing related to the events. They would surely be very confused to see him 20yrs. later and still look the same, but for some reason, they just arenāt. Eli is just slightly surprised, and the rest donāt even seem to care about that, like ,Oh, 20yrs. later are nothing. Itās like it was just yesterday,.
Stasis: As far as Iām aware Gordon IS in fact put into stasis. I think this is actually official, but the idea of a place where time passes extremely slow could as well be a possibility.
I agree with most of your points (as I made similar points) I also think Breen survived (kinda, his mind may have survived, but maybe not as a whole.), I may even go as far to say he might be one of Advisors that killed Eli (the one who sucked out his brains.) certainly something to think about.
One thing I am confident though, G-Manās employers is not Combine. (Perhaps the beings that control Combine, but not directly Combine.)
Nowhere in or outside of the game it states anything about stasis. There is nothing about it that indicates stasis either. I mean, where G-Man takes us is just a black space of nothingness and leaves us there. Thatās all we know. (And we only know that thanks to the ending of the second game. In the first game, you just jump trough a portal. Where exactly the portal takes you is a mystery until the second game.) The fact that he comes in there with you without either of you go into stasis and then (opens a door and leaves while you are watching him, still not in stasis) indicates that there is no stasis. Unless you put yourself in stasis by sheer power of will.
Maybe we are over thinking this part. As far as I know, ā20 years has passedā part was kinda retconned later. If I remember correctly, the original estimate was 10 years. It is still weird that they donāt ask why he is still so young, but some people can age better than others. So, while developing the game, they might not put so much thought into that part, mainly because gap wasnāt supposed to be so big. After all, in HL2, it wasnāt stated how much time has passed.
Like I have said, a HEV suit is always useful for a scientist. Perhaps they were using it for the teleportation experiments. It has all the right tools for it. (an on-board computer system that constantly monitors the userās health and vital signs, reacting to any changes in the userās condition, has an electrically hardened armour system that can be charged at HEV chargers etc., so it has a chance to protect the user if something went wrong during teleportation and so on.) I am just saying that there could be more reasons why they kept the damn thing other than waiting for Gordon to appear out of nowhere.
When I stop to think about it, I wonder about this as well. My theory is that, since Gordon is free from G-Man at the moment (thanks to Vortigaunts) and G-Man canāt directly interfere (he openly says so that he agreed not to interfere directly, agreed with whom, it is unclear.), at some point, he will employ Adrian Shepard against Gordon Freeman and Vortigaunts. (to take back the control of the situation.) Being the good soldier he is (though I think he will be misguided and manipulated by G-Man, he will go after Freeman.), he will do everything to stop Gordon Freeman. (As it was his mission from the beginning.) Unless they turn him to our side. How about that! 
I agree, but I donāt think Kleiner ever met or heard about G-Man either. I donāt think Eli would share what he knows about G-Man with anyone. (He wouldnāt even tell Gordon If Alyx didnāt deliver G-Manās message.)
G-Man has plans for Alyx, of that I am sure. But I think he didnāt act upon them mostly because of the Vortigaunts. I think since they are always aware of his presence and would stop him, he is unable to use her the way he need at the moment. (as far as we know Vortigaunts always been a part of the rebellion)
I think weāre slightly off-topic because of these conspiracies.
Somewhat back onto the topic at hand, I think G-Man simply saying āas for the suit, I think you earned itā and then both taking the suit and engineering circumstances so that it is almost immediately recovered seems to me to be just his style.
That saidā¦
Iām probably in the tiny minority here in not really finding Half-Life 2ās writing very compelling in comparison to the original, and the Combine not a very impressive enemy relative to the military. Iām sure Iāll be outvoted on this, but Iād much prefer Black Mesa remain something of a stand-alone game not constantly overshadowed by Half-Life 2. Having Kleiner and Vance in the laboratory is pretty unobtrusive, but actually changing significant story dialogue would not, I think help the gameās world.
Yeah, I would argue that we are right on topic compared to most other topics, but perhaps we are slightly moving around the topic a bit.
But to make all the changes Kleiner did, Kleiner must have been working on the HEV suit for some time. We donāt know how long he had it, but long enough to make it compatible with Combine tech. (considering that it is alien technology, it should be a fairly long time) So, G-Man did remove the suit from you after all. Game just needs to reflect that by adding a simple line.
Honestly, having G-Man not tell you what heās going to do with the suit fits his character more.
While I have to admit that Iām just generally opposed to any sort of change because I donāt want Black Mesa to alter things in accommodation of a game that I donāt particularly like, dky is also right that even when considering BM as a prequel to HL2, it fits more with G-Manās character to keep the old line. From what we see of G-Man, he prefers to engineer circumstances to cause a desired outcome, seldom gives people exactly what they want or exactly what they think theyāre getting, and in face-to-face interaction confers precious little information, preferring statements that sound definitive but are in fact misleading half-truths. Considering that the removal of this sort of āprime moverā role on G-Manās part in later episodes is one of the main reasons I donāt like Half-Life 2, I would be very disappointed if the more limited take was projected back into BM.
It is not like he ever lies to you. He just doesnāt tell you some things. He tells you that he will take your weapons and he takes it. He tells you that you will keep the HEV suit andā¦ he takes it. You see, thats just where it doesnāt make sense, it was apparently retconned. The way I suggested it, he still doesnāt tell you what he is going to do, but he tells you that he is taking the HEV suit until you need it again. Makes sense? I mean, like I have said, while he always keeps information from you, he never says something and does it otherwise, G-Man isnāt someone who speaks in riddles. He is quite literal when it comes to what he is going to do.
I am not saying we should get rid of the old line, I am just saying that we should add a small line next to it, G-Man is fine as he is in HL1, but it doesnāt mean adding small things like that will ruin it.
I donāt think G-Man was changed even a bit from HL1 to HL2, it seems a bit different because the circumstances has changed. He is not GOD like, he is just a being thats very powerful.