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@sersoft

if black mesa deathmatch is good enough people will find new exploits, but they can’t just keep the old ones, especially considering they’re already fixed by the EP2 engine

btw… even css has a bhop on/off command for servers.

edit: if you don’t believe me… look up counter-strike source’s update history from 17th Aug 2010:

Community Requests:
Added cvar sv_enablebunnyhopping, defaulted to 0. ( A value of 1 autotags the server with “bunnyhop” )

further… this is no real argument for me. bhop isn’t just a bug. it’s a gameplay element, also. it improves the quality of the game. imagine quake live without bhop. nobody would play it. it would be a cheap noob game.

[TheeGoatPig]

@xtobix

in my opinion removing bhop from hl (with the lack of bhop in bm:dm) it would be the same like removing hotkeys from starcraft2… no pro would play it.

Yay? I hate games ruled by “pro gamers”. They exploit the worst parts of the game to make it as little fun for everyone else around them as possible. I say, “Fuck them,” and close up every exploit and bug you can find.

[Dias]

I like you, you make sense. :freeman:

[fury]

@TheeGoatPig

Yay? I hate games ruled by “pro gamers”. They exploit the worst parts of the game to make it as little fun for everyone else around them as possible. I say, “Fuck them,” and close up every exploit and bug you can find.

everybody has the same chances… and can go pro. further… there will always be better and lower skilled people playing a game, so there is no point in removing all challenging parts of a game.
for me… games have to be challenging… otherwise it’s no fun to master them… and i mean that for singleplayer games same as for multiplayer games.

btw. black mesa is a remake of half-life 1… and half-life 1 is no noob game… so i hope the devs will take care about that and make the game faithful… multiplayer games (especially deathmatch games) without rampant learning curves will die after a while, because they get boring… because of the lack of challenges and excitement.

[JamesKane]

oh we want the game to be fast and crazy like the old school games.

[fury]

@JamesKane

oh we want the game to be fast and crazy like the old school games.

awesome. the thing is, i think making the run-speed faster won’t do it.

edit: bhop is important for gameplay balance, because you can either be slow (run around) and shoot accurately or be mega fast and shoot less accurate (except you play like a god).