Socialized Healthcare

Your life must really be a happy one, if you are indeed able to actually believe this.

Read the rest of the damn post.
Oh wait, you think the United States is a dictatorship just because we don’t believe in your crazy theories about 9/11.
Thus, your post is irrelevant.

You’re probably right. I shouldn’t actually believe in the United States Constitution.

Considering how hard it’s being fucked with at the moment, seemingly without consequences for the fuckers, I would say, yeah! But you are free to go on sleeping and dreaming. Don’t wanna disturb you. humming lullaby

There has been a lot of points made here, and I’ve been getting an impression that most posters (with a few exceptions) see only two options here. Privatized healthcare, as it is now, or only public healthcare. Having lived in Canada and Scotland, I’ve seen a system which is neither of these, but still an acceptable system. Public healthcare exists, and it will take care of you for the most part. If you want a service faster or with better service, you have the choice of going to a private clinic. That’s your choice. A public option in the US is what I see as mandatory, like the other services of Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare. (I use the term mandatory as I saw it on this Wikipedia article) This would just mean no matter what circumstances you have, you can get medical treatment.

To use a previous example, again your next door neighbour is sick. Not a broken leg, but a highly infectious respiratory infection. Simple antibiotics can treat this infection, but they’re prescription. He can’t afford healthcare, but luckily enough, there is a public healthcare system. He is goes to the doctor, and is treated. He’s healthy and so are you. Let’s go back. He’s got the same infection, but no public healthcare. He still goes to work, regardless of the infection, because he can’t afford to treat it anyway. You go on the same bus as him, and manage to catch the infection. Thanks to him, you have to go to your private doctor, get treated for the infection, and spend large amounts of money in the process. Because of a lack of public option, not only is your neighbour still sick, you’re out of pocket because of it. Magnify the scenario. Next time there’s a pandemic in America, you think the private insurance companies will help?

Also, from an ecomonic standpoint, I see this as a beneficial program. More healthy people means more people in work and off welfare. More working people means more ecomonic growth, as well as more taxes.

I can see a simple implementation of funding for a public system in America without removing the insurance companies. (Care of my dad ^_^)

  • The insurance companies pay a fee/tax for every person they deny insurance to.
  • The collected money is used to fund public healthcare

As the denial rate goes down, the necessary funding for public healthcare goes down. Innovative, eh?

so did you guys solve this problem?

I’ve had quite a bit of fun reading all these anti-government posts. Why is it that citizenry seems to hate those its puts in charge of itself so much? If we follow the liberterian path to the full everyone would become individuals, no-one would help each other and society would cease to exist all together.

I’ve never heard of a country with only public healthcare. All the socialised systems I’ve seen still have private companies running as well.

Which problem?

The impending threat of a Socialist Fascist Communist Dictatorship?
America having the worst and most expensive health care in the free world?
The Free-market corporate purchase of Congress preventing real solutions that aren’t in the interest of Congress’ corporate ownership?
Bringing the reptillian illuminati perpetrators of 9/11 to justice?
Installing a government in Iraq that will allow Exxon to drill their fields?

I mean, the answer to your question is “no” or “no, that’s retarded” in any case, except that we did solve the problem of Exxon not being allowed to drill in Iraq, but it wouldn’t hurt for you to be more specific.

Oxymoron.

I’m just posting the “problems” that have been pointed out in this thread, not endorsing them as logical.

I’m pretty sure he was being sarcastic…

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