Sorry if this is not allowed here, but I thought it would be worth a go.
Today I bought the “Give and Get” deal of 6 copies of L4D2 for $25. Since I only need one copy I thought it would be beneficial to all if I sold these copies cheap.
I will be charging a small fee of $5 per copy, and have 5 copies to sell. All money will be transferred via paypal.
It’s called discretion. Honestly I was hoping I’d find a thread like this so I can get L4D2 for cheap, but I’m not too sure about trusting someone with a 19 post count.
I’m pretty sure that reselling a copyrighted game is really illegal. Pretty stupid to break copyright on a public forum full of people who use steam. I wouldn’t be suprised if one of the people you sell one to, if you do, reports you and gets you banned from steam or something.
Yeah, but the gifting service on steam says that charging for gifts is against the rules. I’m well aware selling a disc based game is perfectly legal, but steam games are digital, and to sell them is illegal as far as I know.
I’m pretty sure the sales of a digital copy of a game is not illegal it is just against the terms of service for Steam because at the end of the day they don’t want to be dealing with people who have been scammed.
If you purchase 6 digital copies of the game and you want to transfer these to another account that perfectly legal, if you want to charge for your time to do this then again I don’t see how that could be disputed.
I’m just disappointed I didn’t see this thread earlier to be honest.
The illegal thing would be if you resold the copyrighted game as your own. Did you know that I made Beckoning of Obligation 5: Darker-than-Grey Enterprise? Want it for $200?
The issue isn’t the police shutting you down, its Valve shutting THIS FORUM down for condoning something which is, at least in civil court, illegal.
Not at all; if they wanted to they could set up a legitimate eBay like reselling service quite easily. They want to stop this happening so they can make more money. People aren’t likely to give away games for free without receiving something in return, unless they are genuine gifts. That means if they can eliminate the second-hand market, they radically expand the first-hand market of people who have no choice but to buy their games.
Because the first is a gratuitous gift and the other is a contract for sale. Those are entirely different. The second is in violation of the EULA and could, at the very least, result in the banning of your account. The first is completely fine and endorsed by Valve.
EDIT: Not only are you not able to transfer the gifts for money, you’re not even able to charge people to use them in any way. See the Subscriber Agreement, paragraph 1. You can see the answer to the question of “can I sell my gifts for money” here.
Reselling gifts on Steam is against the EULA, but as for whether or not it is punishable by law is disputable. Due to there being no explicit legal implications, its frowned upon by most websites just for the sake of being safe rather than sorry.
Now, selling unused CD keys is legal, but selling Steam accounts is illegal (while it isn’t likely to get you in any trouble with the law, it can easily get your Steam account disabled).
There may not be criminal implications, but there are most certainly civil punishments that can be used. You all signed the agreement when you got Steam accounts, so they can all be shut down (and the games lost), and I’m fairly confident this website could, potentially, be shut down as part of an injunction. My legal knowledge doesn’t quite cover all of the relevant areas of law, but I think its safe to say that its much better for this website not to break any civil codes.
So stop it. I like it here. If you want to sell games, go elsewhere.
lol you really think valve would shut this forum down cause one guy sold a game
theyd ban him from steam AT THE VERY MOST. its a million times more likely they wouldn’t notice and if they did, they wouldn’t really care. it’s five goddamn dollars gabe can wipe his ass with that
god damn youre retarded
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