Yes
Maybe you should learn how PC works before you build one.
Also playan vidya gaems on you parents PC =/= lols i know hows to build teh PC.
Well get used to it. The world isn’t all ice cream, flowers, and unicorns, kid.
Honestly if you can’t take some internet sarcasm you probably shouldn’t be interacting with other human beings, for both your safety and the safety of those around you. :retard:
Are you terribly fixed on an Intel CPU? There is some interesting offerings from AMD right now in your budget. If not I wouldn’t buy the set up you are looking at. There is some initial looks at the core i5 on P55 mobos, and clock for clock there is little to differentiate the core i5 from the core i7 unless it comes to memory bandwidth. The HT seems to have had little effect on real world performance. A mid range P55 is looking to be around 175 bucks USD.
I do not suggest integrated PSUs, just check out this video as to why:
https://www.viddler.com/explore/maxthelimit/videos/1/
I also wouldn’t suggest the Hitachi HDD. Right now Western digital is a brand you can expect the best reliability and speed from. Used to be Seagate included in there, but their recent troubles and failures have soured me on seagate for now.
For best performance the high density platters on the Caviar black HDDs are very sweet. I’ve got the 640GB version and am very impressed.
Video card is nice. I have the core 216 version and it was a very nice card.
That CPU should work with the P45 chipset, but you could probably save almost 100 bucks by downgrading to the Q9550 and see very little difference between the two.
The money you save there could be put towards a reasonably nice case and power supply. Tx750 is a real nice one if you don’t care about being modular, HX620 if modular is your taste.
Case is a lot of personal taste so I leave that up to you.
To be quite honest. I’ve had a few AMD cpus before, and all of them I’ve had issues with. I’m sure they’re fine, but I know the intel chipset much better, and so if I upgrade I’m sticking with that. Same with Nvidia, I haven’t had a ATI card in ages because I don’t know the system and how they compare.
I shall try and help like the rest of you have.
Here are the sites I use:
ebuyer.com
Dabs.com
Scan.co.uk
Some of those products aren’t available in the UK(the case for one), so you’ll have to have a quick look around for a relatively good mid-range case and a 750W PSU to power the components should be ok, but I’m not that familiar with some of the components.
As you’re on a budget, the ATI Radeon HD 4850 is a very good GPU for the money, and can outpace many of Nvidia’s cards.
Except the GTX260… I’ve had an ATI 4890 1gb and it performs worse than a geforce 9800GTX+ in some games.
That video made me laugh, 6 power supplies in 2 minutes… xD. Anyways, about the the graphics card, as you mention it, i did actually change it to a ati 4890, as it performs 30-40fps better then the gtx260 in certain games according to a few websites, however on some games it performs alot worse. Pretty sure this is to do with how the cards are optimized or something. As for the cpu… i was forgetting that the monitor i have in the loft… well… sucks xD, so i’ve downgraded to the q9550 like you said. I’m not too familiar with amd, though i’d be willing to give them a try. Thanks for the websites, i’ve been needing more to choose from.
Hard drives… im open to anything tbh, and though im not willing to go crazy on them, i want a reliable one, so i might take your advice.
Just checked mwave.com for international shipping… N/A… I’m gonna have to refine my parts now, cause the websites you gave me and that i know cost alot more
The games the ATI cards perform abysmally in are usually sponsored by Nvidia(i.e. Crysis), but with the newer Nvidia cards you do have the added bonus of PhysX so it’s really a win-win for Nvidia right now.
The 4890? Make sure you’re not over doing it; check the resolution of the monitor you’re going to buy, and work from that. Reading some computing magazines will help you decide which components are best suited for your needs.
Less “sponsored by” and more “optimized for,” really.
What amd processor and motherboard would i get if i was looking to replace an e7400 and an msi p45 platinum motherboard? I’ve never really dabbled with amd
To replace the mobo I would say the Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P, though you may be able to find something a touch cheaper.
Comparable price to the e7400 is either the AMD Phenom II X4 810, or the AMD Phenom II X4 905. For comparison, the 810 performs about on par with the Q6600, or the Q9300.
The only game I can think of that the 4890 loses to the 9800GTX+ is Deadspace, and it still doesn’t matter because the game doesn’t even push a 4830. Even in Crysis, which is a game that nvidia donated coding to resulting in better performance on their cards, the 4890 is still either better or right between the GTX 280, and GTX 260 cards.
The three hard drives I suggest are all WD caviar black. There are 500GB, 640GB, and 1TB variants. Chose the one that fits your needs.
I would only upgrade you GTX 260 if you are gaming at a resolution at least 19201080. Below that it’s overkill, and you’ll see zero benefit. I don’t want to hear you hooking this system up to a 19 inch monitor that displays 1440900. It’s a sin.
If your from the states buy your parts from newegg or tigerdirect, you can get pretty good deals there. And the topic about 4890s, I have two of them running in my comp and they blow away the GTX 285 and, depending on the game, equal the GTX 290 when there OC’d. You can buy one from newegg for under $200USD.
He’s from UK (unless I read wrong)
“He’s from UK (unless I read wrong)” Unfortunately - _ - …
“I would only upgrade you GTX 260 if you are gaming at a resolution at least 19201080. Below that it’s overkill, and you’ll see zero benefit. I don’t want to hear you hooking this system up to a 19 inch monitor that displays 1440900. It’s a sin.”
I laughed at that. I don’t think i’ll be using a 19 inch monitor, but i don’t think i’ll get the original 24 inch monitor i wanted unless i get a lesser version of the main parts. Most notably the motherboard, if i get a worse one, i can get a beter cpu and a better monitor… but… i suppose thats two steps forward and three steps back? i was looking at this deal:
https://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4813747&Sku=B69-3041
which is about £50 less than the cpu/motherboard (bought seperately) i had before, while even providing a better cpu. Is the drop on the motherboard worth this? I had an Msi p45 Platinum before.
There is a few things I don’t like about that board. The P43 chipset doesn’t have some key features the P45 chipset does. That is not a bid deal really. A major annoyance with that board is the placement of the primary motherboard power connection. It’s dead center, instead of at the edge like most boards. That means you’ll have that huge main cable group trundling it’s way across everything to the middle of the board. It’s rather annoying, especially if you tinker inside the computer at all.
Ok, after taking all your advice, I’ve changed to this setup (I’m going to get a few parts from my old pc)
I’ve long since thrown my £550 budget mark out the window, at £602, I’m quite a bit over the threshold. However, at least this means I can get the parts I want, and won’t end up upgrading in 1 years time. I tried to cut corners… i really did, and i ended up going back to the original, or a better, slightly more expensive version, which is 1 step forward… 2 steps back.
If anyone has used this case before, can you let me know how the cooling is for it, and whether i should stick with the two stock 120mm fans, + a 80mm one i’m going to buy, OR, get some good-brand ultra-quiet ones, OR even get a whole different case. I haven’t been able to find ANY reviews so thats a bit worrying, but for the price, it looks nice, has a nice layout.
:
"To replace the mobo I would say the Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P, though you may be able to find something a touch cheaper.
Comparable price to the e7400 is either the AMD Phenom II X4 810, or the AMD Phenom II X4 905. For comparison, the 810 performs about on par with the Q6600, or the Q9300."
Erm, missed this bit… you’ve been a great help so far, and call me a tard if I’m wrong, but the sites i’ve looked at all showed the phenom II X4 810 to be even more expensive than even the Q8200. Linkage if you can plz
EDIT: BTW ignore the radeon 4890, add the time of the screenshot i was still set on getting it, until i read over your comments a last time, and PHYSX finally moved me back to the gtx260.
Also sorry for painting over the total price xD its $969.7021
I can’t find that case for sale anywhere.
A case I would recommend for a build with those hot components is the Coolermaster Dominator(Alternate Site for more reviews), as it’s got very goot ventilation for the money. Don’t get put-off by it’s “giant toaster with silver frills” look, it’s utilitarian and relatively cheap.
It’s gone up by £5.99 since I last checked, but it’s still a good deal.
It comes with screws, which means you can get rid of the no-screw design features if you want.
It also comes with 2 120mm fans and a filter.
The PSU has to be placed at the bottom of the case.
EDIT:
If you can’t find that PSU in the UK, THIS one is a highly trusted brand.
The 7 120mm fans do sound nice indeed, Thanks for that. Oh and the case is for sale here: https://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Akasa-MIDAS-AK-EC021-Compact-lifestyle-Case-inc-advanced-thermal-design-with-USB-Audio-eSata-Ports
Your thoughts on the rest of the setup?
Ooops, I missed that 
For the HDD, a Western Digital Caviar Green is good, but make sure you buy the cables. I don’t really trust Hitachi after two DVD-RW drives packed in and a HDD died very quickly.
The Q8200 is ok, but remember, if you really don’t need the extra threads, go for the E7600 which is just £1 less for an extra 700MHz(without the two extra threads).
The monitor seems to be fine, Acer I trust due to them not breaking easily.
Motherboard is completely fine, the P45 chipset is great.
The GTX 260 is fine, you get PhysX and various other bonuses, THIS and THIS are the best deals I can find at the moment.
The RAM is great, just make sure you get a 64-bit OS to take advantage of the full 4GB.
That’s all I have for now, my head hurts :’(
In general HypherThreading only really benefits certain applications like business apps. We found we got faster rendering performance with Maya by disabling HT as when it tried to allocate more rendering threads to the apparently more cores, things got slower not faster. Games are similar, the types of things they do generally doesn’t map well to HT (fake extra cores) compared to actual, real, multiple cores.