It was 1947-1991.
That’s about 2 decades :hmph:
I never said the FBI didn’t “investigate” it, in fact I specifically said they did. That doesn’t mean the CIA wasn’t involved.
About my avatar (the official IAO seal) and “conspiracy theories:”:
Well, your avatar does kinda look like one a consparicy nut would use tbh. It’s a great avatar though.
Well, the IAO is like something a conspiracy nut would be paranoid about, I suppose - except it exists, all-seeing illuminati pyramid and everything, even though it’s swirled down the memory hole in record time.
My word was “dealt”, implying that the FBI handled the bulk of it. Even if the CIA tipped them off, the FBI actually investigated and arrested them, which seems to me to be the important parts of this.
that response is hilariously irrelevant to what’s being argued. Thank Jesus and Uncle Sam that those heroes at the FBI foiled this dastardly KGB plot to spy on nothing… USA! USA! USA!
Oddly enough, I didn’t comment on the actual reality of the FBI’s claims, I just stated that you are making groundless claims bordering on random conspiracy.
The discussion you jumped in in the middle of was about whether or not the CIA would have any role to play in intercepting foreign spies on US soil. Since you’re echoing my distinction between the FBI “dealing” with spies and the CIA “finding” spies, it would appear as if you are supporting my side of the argument.
Moving on to your further unspecified objections about the grounds of my claim, it’s simply a logical analysis of 1) the complete lack of any coherent reason for the arrests 2) the lack of espionage charges against the suspects who are nonetheless labeled “spies” 3) the lack of any upside for Russia over an allegedly decades-long operation, 4) the obvious upside for US military/intelligence agencies to stoke cold-war fear and paranoia during a sensitive political context
Last decade when the USSR fell apart
I was just responding to your response to my response, not actually involving myself in the current discussion.
which is why I described your comment as “hilariously irrelevant”
Nevertheless had to be said in order to keep me happy.
you can’t outargument mattemuse
but that fact only makes him sound more butthurt because we’re on the INTERNET :lol:
This isn’t relevant to anything, but isn’t it funny how uncomfortable some people get when faced with a current events discussion? It’s like facts that conflict with their worldview are physically painful for them to view, so they post gibberish and contort the discussion in any way they can in order to steer it away from conversation about facts. Or maybe it’s the intellectual self-suppression of said facts that’s causing discomfort - the human mind is an interesting thing.
I didn’t mean to distract the discussion, I just don’t follow the news anymore so my worldview pretty much consists of rumors about the government being stupid.
I’ve given up following news. All new news can be summed up like this: the rich fuck over the country in some genius new way.
There was a recent thing passed in America that allows corporations to directly donate to politician’s campaigns. It claimed that it was “free speech;” corporations are people and they speak using money, so free speech says they can bribe politicians.
BTW, I know many patriots will believe that they are spies. I just know. Not to say that patriots are all dumbasses, but there are alot of american patriots that still have their mind in the cold war.
Is this actually relevant to the spies or are you just being off topic.
Anyway, apparently we’re getting some of our spies for some of these spies. Basically about as much came of this as I thought it would.
As a side note, we seem to be getting a much better deal out of this than russia.
Also, shadow, if they weren’t spies, they were doing some pretty weird stuff, i.e. using false names.
If they weren’t spies, Russia wouldn’t be doing a trade for American spies that they caught. But this still doesn’t explain the timing.