Ron Paul VS the rest of the Republicans

#1

For those here in the forums that reside on US soil, you may know (Hopefully) that next year an election will be held. And currently going down now is the race for the republican candidate who will run up against our current Muppet president.

How many of you keep up with this race? How many of you think there is no point?

I would suggest everyone look up Ron Paul and understand what he stands for. I will post some youtube videos of his debates and interviews.

I am curious to know what everyone thinks of Ron Paul and his views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMmVwW8h4Ho New Hampshire Debate. Note you can watch the whole debate on youtube. This is only Congressman Paul’s answers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwFzdl0L53c Glen Beck interview. Glen Beck is a total disrespectful ingrate but Ron Paul makes good points none the less.

More to come…

https://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf This is a fun little flash video about Liberty. Watch it or not; agree with it or not this flash video speaks truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUvjXzTaw5M&feature=related Federal Reserve Needs to go… (Ron Paul Interview)

#2

I’m a stinky European so I have no idea.

#3

I’m a stinky South American so I have no idea.

#4

I hate republicans.

#5

Yeah, I’m a stinky Socialist so I have no idea.

#6

One who does not listen to both sides of the story to form his/her own opinion based on facts is just a conformist. Congrats on not using your brain and independent thought and letting the establishment do it for you if that is the case for you.

I find it pretty scary how people handle this subject so loosely…

#7

Republicans? Aren’t they the guys loyal to Saddam?

Some people… find it incredibly convenient, to apply a consideration-filter over politicians. With such a filter engaged, they no longer waste valuable time considering the viewpoints of those stupid enough to label themselves “Republican”. This is a perfectly defensible policy.

#8

I’m a stinky North American so I have no idea.

#9

Do you believe that Mont_Blanc formed his opinion loosely and not using his brain? Or, could it be that Mont_Blanc listened to both sides of the story and then formed his/her own opinion based on facts and came to that conclusion?

On-topic: If Ron Paul runs with the Republicans, I’ll be happy. The Republican party is in a circular firing squad at the moment and I’m giggling because the Democrats have been doing that for a long time now. It’s nice to see the squabbling while Obama goes on to win a second term. :smiley:

#10

It’ll clear up by election time. You seem to forget we’re well over a year away.

#11

God fucking dammit OP, give me your political beliefs. IMMA COME AT YOU BRO.
[COLOR=‘Black’]In good nature of course. <3

#12

I 'unno. With the Tea Party and such infiltrating the Republican party, the squabbling could go on until the elections.

#13

With all the freshman House members the hierarchy that has dominated the party for so long has been disrupted, until only recently, when Boehner managed to pull them together for a vote on his def. plan, which was of course shot down in Senate, where house majority leader Harry longrod is due to propose his own.

__ On a Separate Note __

Even if we don’t reach a compromise by the second, Obama can whip a 14th amendment out of his ass and put through his plan that he proposed oh-so-long ago… I think he meticulously planned it this way and is waiting for it to become obvious to the general public that “no compromise could be reached” so he can whip in his own plan, without the legal and respect ramifications he would of endured by forcing it through without letting the trolls in the House and Senate run the democratic process into the ground.

Which I FULLY SUPPORT actually.

#14

You’re mistaking me for someone else. I’m a liberal democrat.

Since I’m a European, I don’t follow this subject as much as you do. But I’m wondering how you end up with all that.
I’m basing my opinion on their actions in the last couple of years and the growing influence inside by the fuck’n tea party.

#15

jello biafra 2012
no really though go obama
he makes me feel safe and cuddly inside

#16

I wouldn’t be surprised if he did set up a Xanatos Gambit in that vein. The whole point of senate and house debate is to check the power of the executive branch, so if he did try something like this, there will be PLENTY of people out there disputing such an action’s constitutionality.

Then again, since when has Washington given two shits about the Constitution in the last 100 years or so? :fffuuu:

#17

Not raising the debt ceiling is ludicrous in my opinion. And the dithering going on in Congress is facepalm-worthy. The “fiscally responsible” Republicans are trying their damnedest to NOT try to pay the bills. The money has already been ‘spent’; the bills are coming due and it’s insane that the Congress is pussyfooting around on paying the bills that they’ve already made in our name.

Both sides need to grow up…but especially the Republicans.

EDIT: And there has been a debt deal reached.

#18

Oh don’t worry about tea party people. Even the dumbest dumbshit knows, that you have to build democratic progress on compromise - noone wants a three year old child representing in parliament. They’ll be gone after they got a good spanking after elections.

#19 
   I actually stated after that sentance you quoted daniel "And [i][u][b]if[/b][/u][/i] that is the case..."  I would prefer ON TOP of listening to both sides that the individual would also go on to do his/her own research as well. I hear too many rehashed opinions from people. It's like I am watching someone report fox news right to my face. News is mostly run by biased corporate whores who have the power to manipulate information. And people fall for it. Don't under estimate how easy it is to fool a lazy person. (PURELY GENERAL not directed at anyone specifically)

My political beliefs? I don’t like titles and I am not registered as a republican or democrat. I believe in the constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Our forefathers didn’t fight a revolutionary war to see the people grow dependent on a government the founders sought to protect us from via the constitution, bill of rights and Declaration of Independence.

Why is the president making so many decisions when it should be left up to the states? The only role of the president (Federal government) really is to provide the United States with National Security. Not to get involved with “squabbles”(as a previous poster stated.) like pro-life issues and gay marriage issues…

Why do people feel that federal laws have to be enacted to FORCE them to make a decision? If I want to go on a drug binge for a week why should the Federal government be up there ready to crack down on me for MY decision? As long as I am not a threat to anyone it should not matter EVEN if it kills me. That my friends is the power of Liberty.

Ultimately, I believe in the roots of what our country is supposed to represent; Life, Liberty and to pursue happiness. What do you guys believe? Someone should make laws that don’t allow you make your own decisions? We should go around the world bullying sovereign countries around? A former president who had (Still has I’m sure) a childish “Evil vs Good” mentality and a personal vendetta against a dictator is NOT a good excuse to invade a country and spend ummm Trillions of dollars to fund some military complex!

I think most politicians are career minded assholes who will do what they need to do to get to the top. And you know what? There are bad people that can make it up there COUGH BUSH COUGH BOTH OF THEM COUGH (Does the Patriot Act sound not evil to you?)

Ron Paul is 75 years old guys. I don’t know about you but I would want to retire by 65 and the last thing I would want to do is run for president. I don’t think Ron Paul will make the candidacy (I hope I am wrong.) But if there is one thing I know for sure, out of ALL of the candidates running for the republican nomination Ron Paul is the one I want to see go up against Obama.

Ron Paul is fighting for you guys he is not fighting for his own gain or some corporate whore gain. So, cast aside these ridicules titles of Republican and Democrats and listen to reason whatever that may be and show support for the man and when the election rolls around we will all see what happens.

Oh and BRING IT ON MEDEVILAE!

Congress still has to vote on it. Nothing is set in stone yet as of 8/1/2011

An honest question… Did you read the whole article? Or just watch the video?

Everyone knows what the point of the constitution is right? PLEASE tell me you know! And the reason behind the rhetorical question asked by k3nny1550 will be apparent why Washington could care less about the constitution...
#20

Do you believe others hate Republicans for no reason whatsoever and they aren’t using their brains?

If your actions only affected you, you might have a point. But, let’s take this scenario as a for-example:

You live in an apartment building. Your neighbor who shares a wall with you smokes in bed. The bed goes up in flames. Then the drapes and the floor. Then the stack of newspapers and magazines. Then the wall. Then YOUR wall. Then YOUR carpeting. Then YOUR STUFF.

Now, rewind a bit. If your neighbor did not act irresponsibly by smoking in bed, your stuff wouldn’t be destroyed.

Do you believe that one has the right to protect one’s property? Do you believe that one has the right to ensure that another’s irresponsible actions do not lead to your own personal harm?

Because, well, that’s what you’re advocating above: My personal harm by YOUR irresponsible actions.

Even if those “decisions” harm others? Do you believe that laws only serve to squelch liberty? Or could laws amplify liberty by ensuring that-- well, let’s put this bluntly and as politically incorrect as possible --stupid people don’t harm us?

Errm, not quite. Dude, he’s even against the friggin’ Constitution. And, as an advocate of the Austrian School of Economics, his beliefs regarding the free market and such are tantamount to…well, again, let’s be as politically incorrect as possible: Creationism.

He is a complete dolt where it comes to what government does and what it’s there for.

I thought that’s what I said.

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