“Playing Older Games and How It Can Be Hard”
It’s okay, older games make me hard too.
Yeah, especially when playing Final Fantasy VII.
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Gotta’ love early 3D RPG games, where half the shit was pre-rendered and the other half looked more like polygons than actual human beings.
Played Half-life 1 for the first time about a year and a half ago, still my favorite game ever. Graphics don’t matter to me. I appreciate good graphics, but they don’t make or break a game.
I love old games, I think death animations are a little cooler than a body flying across the room and hitting a wall because you shot them with a shotgun. And the graphics were good for the time, but if this was a game that had just come out I would be angry at the developers for being so lazy and not making a game with current graphics. Long story short: I like old games, no matter the graphics.
I think that the majority of us can safely assume that this is a half-and-half show-down. Some people prefer graphics along with game-play, whilst others do not mind having crappy graphics, as long as the story is good. I still stick to my original opinion, that game play, for me, is directly affected by graphics; moreover, I will generally only play a game where the graphics are at least as good as HL2 or better. I like to be emerged in the environment that I am playing while enjoying a good story. With that said, I am waiting for the Black Mesa mod to finally be released, so that I can play HL through without getting up and leaving every 20 min.
Look for a demo of Jurassic Park: Tresspasser. You’ll love it. lol
Just because a game’s graphics suck, as you put it, doesn’t mean you can’t get immersed (which is what I assume you mean when you say “emerged”). Take a look at Deus Ex, it’s hailed as one of the greatest PC games of all time…yet you are missing out because the graphics are dated. Graphics are the shiny frosting on a cake. Newer game pile more and more frosting in a package the same size as older games. It’s getting so that all you get is the frosting, and not the cake.
Lots of games suck anymore. They are all generic, overpriced, and unoriginal. But they are pretty, and because they are pretty, people buy them. You can’t have a game that is all graphics and nothing else, which is what most games are now. I’m not saying that there weren’t sucky games back in the day, but take a look at Doom 3. All graphics, no game. Unreal Tournament 3. All graphics, no game. F.E.A.R. 2. All graphics, no game. See a trend here? I’m not saying these games weren’t fun (Well, Doom 3 wasn’t after the first few playthroughs), but they did spend more time on graphics than on the game. Doom 3 was long and drawn out, but the gameplay sucked, the enemies were dumber than a box of rocks, and the “spooky” atmosphere was way overdone in other games already. UT3 tried to remake the original UT, and failed because they decided a generic “revenge in war” story would work better than, I dunno…ACTUALLY HAVING A TOURNAMENT. FEAR 2 had it’s moments…but the AI was worse than the first one, the environments got repetitive, and it was way too short.
If you examine the gameplay of UT3 and UT99, they are similar…but UT99 is more fun. More maps, more people, more content, more balance…but because the graphics are on par with Half-Life 1, you would refuse to play it, because you can’t enjoy a game without graphics.
Enjoy your frosting. I’ll take my cake.
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That was incredible.
+1 Internet for you
I enjoy playing classics, and I don’t mind the visuals. It’s when games have outdated mechanics/controls that I have difficulty, so it really depends on the game.
EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, most of the games I play now are from the 90s. I feel like the late 90s was the peak of PC gaming.
I quite liked all of those games, but had never played any of the ones that came before them. Played FEAR after #2 though.
Anyways, I love playing older games that I played when they were first released and really liked, but to go back now and play an older game with outdated graphics would be hard to get into, despite everything it may have to offer.
I have no problems playing Final Fantasy 8, but I recently bought FF7 and the graphics are :meh: :fffuuu: …
It’s hard for me to enjoy, though the rest of the game is great. FF8 is just awesome.
I didn’t say they weren’t enjoyable, what I said was that they spent more time working on the graphics than actually doing anything interesting with the game. FEAR 1 was longer than FEAR 2, FEAR 1 had smarter enemies, more interesting combat arenas, and a better story with better characters. But the original wasn’t as pretty. They boosted the graphics, did some really cool effects, and came up with really cool set pieces…but the only thing they really improved on was the visual look. The rest of it was half-assed. They had a really good story, but they failed to make it work as well as they did in FEAR 1. FEAR 2 became another generic spooky-shooter.
Doom 3 was enjoyable the first few times, but when you realize that the gameplay was the same as it would have been 10-12 years earlier, if Doom 3 came out around the time of the original Quake or Quake 2, it becomes less fun. They focused more on the graphics than the game itself. The enemies would just stand there like idiots and take whatever bullets you threw at them. I killed a Hellknight with a pistol by backing up and strafing to avoid the fireballs. It just stood there and took my bullets. That does not make for an enjoyable game. And the weapons are way too overpowered. You can go almost the whole game using only the shotgun, flashlight, rocket launcher, and Soul Cube. That’s how I beat it the first time.
UT3…well, I already talked about UT3. You have a game series with “Tournament” in the title…your previous three games in the series had a tournament, the two spinoff games (the Championship games) featured a tournament…and then you make it an angst-ridden revenge story about a dude in a war, and then tried to say that people were using tournament gamemodes as a basis for the battles? Not exactly the brightest idea…no tournament in a game about a tournament…
I agree that after playing games with newer graphics, going back to the old ones are difficult, but the graphics alone should not deter someone from playing a game. Graphics are not everything, and really, the art style should have more to do with your enjoyment of the games than the graphical quality. If it has an art style you can’t stand, I would understand, but if you play two games with the exact same are style, and say that one is a worse game because it doesn’t look as graphically powerful, even if that game has more to offer, that is flawed logic.
I have ff9 on my ps1, looks good graphics.
Just wait, one day there will be an x86 emulator capable of running Crysis 2, that will run on mobile phones.
I have some Issues with “older” games, such as Rise of Nations, Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds, I don’t know why, but they crash to the desktop after about 20-30 mins of gameplay…
I tryed to update them, tryed to switch compatibility mode, changed CPU Affinity but they still crash. 
So yea… Old games are hard to play 
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I loved Red Alert 2, despite the horrible engine.
I was both amazed and angered when i heard EA had just given Westwood a year to finish it on, while still being out as an excellent game with an great story and memorable characters (Yuri) at the cost of graphics.
Then it crashed, never to work on my computer again. :[
Then i lost “C&C The First Decade” 
Then my old computer failed me. :’(
Yeah I agree how much they enhanced tech, but Xbox 360 havn’t really got that good of a rating. You see, they have a huge 3-rings of death rate. Lots of people return them. I stick with PC and I can atleast leave it on for a week with out a single problem
Since the new chip has been released, they don’t break down often at all. PCs break down just as much, but people fix them theirselves
Until fairly recently, it would be a joke for any game to compare itself with a photograph, and yet now, this is slowly becoming more and more possible. Prior to this, getting yourself immersed in a game that looked anything less than photo-realistic (read: any game) required little more than a good imagination. Don’t look at the graphics for what they are, look at them for what they represent. Like this guy:
Put those pattern-recognition neurons to good use! Not sure if any of that helps at all, just throwin’ it out there. :retard:
I know you said that at times like this, you’d rather leave things like that to books and novels, and that one of the reasons you enjoy games is specifically because of the visual quality they provide along with the story. In that case, I’ll have go with Marb and say “to each their own.” Just know that, at least in the case of Half-Life, until Black Mesa is released, you’ll be missing out! 
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First of all, I never had any problems with my XBox 360 after years of playing it.
Second of all, watch this, and pay close attention to any similarities between the ending and my post.
That’s where I got it from.