tl;dr: human population increased drastically when we started burning fossil fuel, therefore the current population is unsustainable without the current level of oil supply. We’ve reached the point where no new oil supplies are being found, therefore we are now at the point where the population level will “correct” itself.
I’ve seen the documentary, still not convinced it will happen in my lifetime.
i haven’t seen the doc yet, i’m about to watch it. what aren’t you convinced about, the peak or the collapse? The fact that the global oil supply has peaked doesn’t seem controversial to me, I’m under the impression that there’s data to support that contention (call me on it, and i’ll do my homework). On the other hand I don’t agree with this guy’s prediction that the collapse is going to happen “this summer” but I do agree that things are seeming to heat up (as I’ve noted in other 2012 threads). Gas prices always go up in the summer, and the deepwater horizon spill can’t help the situation. What happened last time we had $4 gas all summer?
Just watched the doc, the thing that amazed me is seeing a far-right ex-cop going from talking about hoarding gold, to talking about an immanent paradigm shift in human consciousness and living closer to the earth in a more tribal way… by the end he sounds exactly like the late Terrence McKenna, a self-admitted schizophrenic dope fiend who predicted a paradigm shift in human consciousness back to a tribal society right around now.
it would be hard times, a huge economic crisis maybe but a world order collapse, not likely.
Just a side note, but why do you think that that will matter? One company lost a lot of oil, therefore oil prices will be universally higher? BPs prices will go up, other peoples will not.
pure speculation, but say offshore drilling in general is fucked due to environmentalist backlash, causing a minor dip in supply, causing speculators to flip the fuck out and drive prices up. plausible, no?
If I were a religious type i might say that big oil spill off the GoM was some kind of coincidental/divine intervention to deter us from expanding offshore drilling.
:retard:
It’s not just an economic crisis, the point of the “Collapse” documentary is that modern civilization is totally based on oil and can’t survive in it’s current form without current levels of oil or a 1:1 substitute (see my original post about population growth). One thing is for certain, shit is going to get a lot more real and soon, even if it doesn’t come down to a “world order collapse” read: US dollar collapse.
ok, so no more oil. what happens? some technology may fall off the charts, and alot of city people will die. We just go back a hundred years or so is all, to my understanding?
but of course! :retard: 
I think the worst thing that could happen is that it takes a few years longer to find a good enough substitute. What will probably happen is that fossil fuels get phased out and almost completely replaced by nuclear/hydrogen based energy sources by the time supply runs out.
and since there’s so much oil in car tires we’ll just have to make them out of something else :retard:
Maybe, but building nuclear plants takes huge amounts of energy resources, as does producing hydrogen, so where are the energy resources to build that capacity going to come from without oil? In addition there are things civilization relies on such as pesticides and plastics that can only be produced via petrochemicals, and can’t be replaced by building a nuclear plant.
On the other hand, I’ve heard the argument that oil consumption as a percentage of global energy production has already peaked, and that this is equivalent to the peak and decline of coal consumption in the earlier part of the century. So who knows…
Isn’t “coincidental/devine intervention” an oxymoron? No, but seriously, it was an inside job by the Enviro-Nazi Obama administration to trick us into submitting to a socialist Cap n’ Trade system.
Meh, I don’t think the environmental backlash will be against existing drilling rigs, only future ones.
I hope it’ll be against all drilling, personally. Using such a limited resource in such a frivolous manner is mindboggling.
Watch this for a bit of what I mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spr5YFfrnA0
Coincidence, signs, whatever you wanna attach to it. not saying i believe such things, but i can see how once could. I myself am plagued by bizarre coincidences on a day-to-day basis, that almost always lead to me to something interesting.
/derail
so yeah oil booargh
My prediction: There will be a backlash in the coming year, but it will soon be reverted as people forget this incident and think (rightly) how unlikely this sort of thing is. Ultimately what we will get out of this is tighter regulation of how to drill but off shore drilling will still happen.
How come no one has mentioned electric cars yet :facepalm:
It’s all about the money, less oil == more money for oil providers since price per barrel/gallon/liter/whatever goes up.
When I first read about “discussions in the US” about legalizing off-shore drilling, I immediately thought: ‘Hope they don’t do it. Environmental catastrophe will follow immediately.’
Then I read about it being legalized and thought: ‘Ok, counting days now till first big oil spill happens’.
Then I read about "big oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico’ and thought: ‘Whow - nobody could have seen THAT one coming.’ :facepalm:
Seriously - it was BOUND to happen. Everybody could see it coming from lightyears away.