Hey guys, just wanna jump in here. I have ‘scanned’ the last couple pages and again I am seeing some rather personal insults and attacks. Please state your case without demeaning others. That is the ONLY way to have a wonderful debate.
AND GO…
“hey people stop having sex please”
- the pope
I’ll just leave this here…
“…Let’s ignore the fact that the American Cancer Society regard it as dangerous; that in two years San Diego county hospitals treated 13 patients with campylobacter sepsis from the Gerson clinic, probably due to the raw calves’ liver injections; that several patients have been admitted comatose with low sodium levels; and that caffeine enemas are jolly dangerous and have been associated with severe colitis, infections and death. No. Let’s focus on the research already done on Gerson. One long-term study of 21 patients (by a naturopath, no less) found that only one was alive five years after treatment. In 1986, researchers found that despite their claims, some patients from the Gerson clinic were not even followed up. There are papers claiming efficacy for nutritional therapy that find a positive effect, but without bothering to give us the figures. Since then, a handful of studies have been done, suggesting a minor positive effect, but the flaws in their methodologies render them worthless.”
OH WAIT IT PROBABLY DOES WORK BECAUSE I HAVE FAITH AND THAT > PROOF.
Lives hang in the balance do you think it is wise to ignore a cure for Cancer and Diabetes? My friend’s life and all the research I did is enough to convince anyone who is open to learn. He had 2 cancers, 1 in the prostate and one in the pelvis. His doctors said he had 6 months to live. He refused Chemo, radiation and surgery and went on the Gerson therapy. The Cancers were gone within 3 months due to good nutrition causing the cancers to autophagy. I don’t feel like writing this whole argument again so if you want to talk about it read this whole thread prior to responding against Max Gerson.
Don’t pretend to be medically knowledgeable, you don’t even spell the simple words right. As I’ve said before, cancer occurs when DNA is mutated and cause useless cells to collect and reproduce rapidly. How the fuck does organic food make those cells disappear? How does it fix the bad DNA? Alternative medicine is alternative because it DOESN’T work or, for that matter, even attempt to make the slightest amount of medical sense. Show me a professional double-blind study done by a credible source and of at least 100 people in each study group and I MIGHT treat your views a little more seriously.
About your friends surviving,
A) You’re bullshitting us
B) He’s bullshitting you
C) Both of you are medically retarded and didn’t understand everything correctly
D) He got really lucky and the cancer went away on it’s own
E) He got really lucky and a doctor made a mistake and diagnosed him too severely.
Well we can’t have a “wonderful” debate without pissing a few people off, especially on religion (but that isn’t the main topic of this thread), okay?
Religion shouldn’t be in this thread anyways.
Correct. Which is why I added “(but that isn’t the main topic of this thread).” Unless there was some kind of religious debate about how to deal with over population (in other words: ON TOPIC!) that I missed (I don’t come to this thread regularly), in which case it’s fine.
Anyone thought about how these mysterious flu cases just seem to come out of nowhere? like bird flu & swine flu.
I forgot how cancer cam into this, so I went back a page and found this post that hasn’t received adequate ridicule.
How, but completely idiotic paranoid schizophrenic logic does pharmeceuticals have absolutely anything to do with farmers??? They sell medicinal drugs, what the hell does that have to do with farmers? Also, very very few people have heart attacks at 25, regardless of how terrible their diet is, and if they do, it’s because there’s something inherently wrong with their hearts, not something developed from bad diet.
All you have to back you up is paranoid idiotic logic, no studies, no scientific research, no professional opinions, nothing. your arguments are Cup o’ Joe vs. science logic reason and basic human nature. I’m starting to seriously suspect you are psychotic, go see I a psychiatrist before you go and kill someone you thought was an undercover FBI agent trying to implant a chip in your brain.
Flus mutate and change from year to year. These aren’t really new flus, they are just evolved versions of flus that have been here for years.
(which is, BTW, one of the proofs of evolution)
In related news the swine flu has now infected dogs.
We’re going to fuck this planet up one way or another and I don’t think the public is ready to give anything up to stop it.
I’m Catholic and I don’t care about a “chip” i’m not one of those revlelations theorists. I’m catholic and so was John the Apostle. If you look at revelations, many parts describe the Catholic Mass. Oh and no I would never kill anyone. So you can stop with your internet insults. You’re calling me crazy and yet you’re the one that hopes that everyone who opposes you “dies a painful death” and you who believes in choosing “who’s fit to live”.
You’re so out of touch with reality that you actually think that people who have the highest morals are psychotic. As for the murder thing I have this to say:
Oh and participating in community events might help you. It’s a lot more productive than insulting Christians. Pride is supposed to be about humility. If you’re proud to be atheist then prove it by helping people in your community.
A Catholic calling an atheist out of touch with reality is the most hypocritical thing I have ever heard. Everything I say or suggest or do has logic or reason behind it. Everything you say or do has your emotions, extremely biased and unproved evidence, weak logic, or the bible behind it.
And being atheist in no way shape or form have anything to do with loneliness or snubbing the community. I work at the local CATHOLIC soup kitchen feeding the homeless.
Also, you have completely deflected my counter argument to your paranoid rambling about pharmacutical companies.
You arrogant bastard, Cup o Joe. You’re saying you have the highest morals, you’re most in touch with reality, when you’re espousing baseless treatments for cancer that are not only dangerous in themselves but replace treatments that actually work.
These views wilfully let people die, for no fucking reason. This is on par with man slaughter, and I mean it quite literally.
The same argument comes into play when you talk about abortions: in your mind it’s better that two people die rather than one live.
You are a delusional psychotic that latches onto any theory or way of life that, in your eyes, defies logic and common sense for no other reason than to hold up the idea of your faith.
You are a sick, sick person: the first person I have met here that’s actually disgusted me. Congratulations.
EDIT: I’m fairly sure you think the AIDS treatments are a way of poisoning people too.
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And this is how the beginning of the end of these threads usually start.
I have only read 2 lines of this page and already I wanna stick a cigarette in my eye. Not because of differences of opinions, but because of the personal insults. Com’mon folks, everyone is preaching tolerance, so let’s start practicing it!
… and action!
let China fight against India, and the problem is solved
If tolerance promotes extreme ignorance and needless death because of denial then I oppose it.
Ok, well that was fun.
One way too slowdown overpopulation would be to stop giving Africa money and start sending people from the western population there who are able to build up a legit economy there. I mean: We send countries like Ethiopia a fair share of our money and I still see no improvements there. On top of that Africa has enough space to house a big portion of the western population.