On A Rail Uncut - Re-Adding Cut Areas/Scenes (Expansion Project)

Problem is, that requires making a MK19, coding it, making it so the AI can use it, and a bunch of other problems.

While I do believe a Humvee with a MK19 on it (Which would also probably have to be its own model) would be a cool middle-ground (heavier firepower, and a 40mm grenade would be enough to knock it out, or at least kill the gunner), it seems like a lot of work for little payoff.

And we’re trying to keep away from another emplaced M2 because that’s all that has been used for mounted defenses.

I would really like to see some kind of makeshift sandbag bunker made around the 50 cal guns too. What made those so lethal in the original was that it was very hard to actually hit the marine controlling the gun. This made it fun to get the perfect shot or to throw a grenade inside.

An LAV wouldn’t really make sense in that part of the game because you’re still deep inside the facility walls and desert even in the outside sections. The armored vehicles aren’t supposed to have showed up yet and definitely not gotten that far inside. Seeing a single LAV that early would be a little odd and I think they are best saved for later even if they are fun to fight against.

Just to put this issue to bed I’m afraid none of these lofty plans that everyone’s suggesting are going to happen. It’s just very out of scope, I’m afraid. I’m a mapper. I’m not a modeller. I’m not an AI coder. I’m a mapper.

I liked the original’s sandbag bunkers too but they don’t exist in Black Mesa. There’s no model for them. The only way for me to make them would be to put together models of individual sandbags in the editor to form a hut, which would be ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS for performance. Horrible, like you wouldn’t believe. I cannot stress how terrible that would be for performance. Unless someone’s willing to model a sandbag bunker for me, which nobody is, then it won’t happen. The Sandbag Bunkers in HL1 were brush based, which would look absolutely terrible in the Source Engine.

The options, sadly, are limited to: parked LAV, as per Someguy’s suggestion, or another 50 Cal emplacement, perhaps with a bit of creative variation. Maybe I could make a makeshift bunker/emplacement out of something else, something interesting. But sandbags is not doable. The only potential compromise I could think of could be an LAV which is (Dadster, you might want to shield your eyes) cleverly clipped into some kind of emplacement so that only the gun is visible/sticks out. Functionally speaking, it would serve as a difficult to destroy autogun. But, alas, this idea’s quite convoluted and I don’t like it much.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to have more options available too. But they’re not available, and there’s nothing I can do about that. I’m a mapper. I use other peoples’ assets to make stuff. I don’t generally make the assets. The closest I get to doing that is skinning, really.

This is all correct.

I will work to put this issue to rest tomorrow. With a bit of tweaking and other changes your suggestion has given me an idea which I’m fairly sure will eliminate this problem once and for all, keeping the nice layout whilst giving it the strengths of HL1. Thank you very much.

^ Cleverly placed Ceiling & Sentry turrets? It might serve the same function in this case.

This is the part where someone with modeling/coding experience swoops in, creates one of the potential solutions (MK19, Sandbag fort), and we all shower them in rose petals.
Glances around.

What do you study btw?

It’s a shame he can’t just use Day of Defeat models, I find those are surprisingly good for make-shift sandbag bunkers.

Talking about sandbags…can this help: https://gmod.gamebanana.com/skins/17141 ?
I’m too new to hammer, but this ragdolled sandbags seem useful.

Awesome!

Sorry to say, that won’t work. The code base for Gmod & BM are different, the entities won’t work as intended in BM.

… the models however could if used in conjunction with propper.

Doesn’t BM have its own single Sand Bag Model? Why not build a fort using those then use propper to create a model out of it?

Edit: It does. Same thing, why not do that?

Continuation Of Feedback For OaR Uncut Alpha

  1. Consider centering this wall light https://i.imgur.com/qFUOar0.jpg
  2. Can this frame, found here https://i.imgur.com/abHHVp0.jpg, be moved back to eliminate this exposed portion https://i.imgur.com/GoL0vMy.jpg as the area in behind the frame’s face is viewable https://i.imgur.com/ukpPduS.jpg. It would also give it a neater look.
  3. Consider raising the upper red light https://i.imgur.com/yFk5q4l.jpg onto the concrete https://i.imgur.com/dZIXk3U.jpg
  4. If the HECU standing on the wooden planks https://i.imgur.com/3jVbhX0.jpg is shot dead, most of the planks self-destroy.
  5. In this upper grated area https://i.imgur.com/SPyHWV8.jpg, there’s a steadily blinking red light https://i.imgur.com/Jlns5Y4.jpg.
    It never fully extinguishes and the lighting effect is very subdued and hardly noticeable. You may want to consider changing its parameters. I suggest centering these red lights horizontally, to have more light thrown onto the ceiling. Also, this somewhat obscured area houses too many electrical boxes, so consider removing some of them. As well, the alternate-side light positioning, misses a right-hand placement. Presently, it’s left, right, left, right, left, left, right.
  6. The electrical boxes on the right end of this power substation, clip into the wall https://i.imgur.com/k1zF7Xi.jpg. The other end looks normal https://i.imgur.com/i7liRww.jpg, even though some wire components also clip into the wall https://i.imgur.com/ZAACFgq.jpg. Can we take advantage of the benefits of clipping (Oh forgive me, all knowing and powerful Clipping Gods), so that both ends look normal?
  7. Consider using the raised wall texture here https://i.imgur.com/SfIEjXg.jpg to compliment the wall on the other side of the tracks https://i.imgur.com/qQHQZWv.jpg. Place a slanted edge at the I-beam and at the left end, where the wall finishes.
  8. Operationally, these gray pipes would interfere with the floor access door being fully opened https://i.imgur.com/5esjgz0.jpg. Consider flipping this texture around so that the door is at the other end https://i.imgur.com/PEax4CB.jpg
  9. Consider spawning this pallet on the opposite wall, to justify its shadow, or alter which wall light is defective https://i.imgur.com/APqaXHd.jpg.
  10. Concerning the alignment of same-type/similar floor textures:
    a) Can these be better aligned https://i.imgur.com/15asvVN.jpg
    b) How about these in the office complex https://i.imgur.com/tRV8pko.jpg and on the lower floor, too [url=‘https://i.imgur.com/V0nPbyJ.jpg’]https://i.imgur.com
    c) How about here https://i.imgur.com/k2NWpbN.jpg
    d) And here https://i.imgur.com/VAuWWma.jpg
    e) Is it doable here https://i.imgur.com/LKO7Uc9.jpg
    f) A slight adjustment needed here, in the hallway outside the rocket engine room https://i.imgur.com/JIVXGJx.jpg
    g) The area in front of each of the three roll-up doors https://i.imgur.com/1oGRB2F.jpg
  11. At the electrified water, not all electrical arcs originate at the surface of an object https://i.imgur.com/yPijlaj.jpg
  12. For continuity, at the electrified water blast doors, consider using the raised wall texture on the tunnel wall in the corner https://i.imgur.com/VtjhF31.jpg. Opposite corner, as well.
  13. There also seems to be some variances on the positioning of red lights above blast doors and associated types. You may want to investigate this area.
  14. Concerning the raised horizontal wall texture, used predominantly in the tunnels, can the beveled/slanted edge https://i.imgur.com/DPRMD6k.jpg be adopted for all instances, whenever possible, instead of the flat/square edge https://i.imgur.com/CBCDtWp.jpg? Like here, for example https://i.imgur.com/3HUC1rW.jpg. This slanted/angled edge https://i.imgur.com/9toiXkV.jpg looks so much better and presents a more polished aesthetic. As they come in at least two different styles, a steep slope https://i.imgur.com/12rNGh1.jpg and a gradual slope (my preference) https://i.imgur.com/v68oZpL.jpg, select the appropriate one for the given scenario.
  15. Replace this flat wall texture, just before the metal frame https://i.imgur.com/1b2Ffyu.jpg with the raised type, as is used across the tracks https://i.imgur.com/JXaZOOg.jpg
  16. The tops of these double doors, leading into the hallway outside the rocket engine room, clip into the door frame https://i.imgur.com/d6eXEbL.jpg. These same-type doors, in the same area are fine https://i.imgur.com/hB8EFHO.jpg, as are the ones at the office complex.
  17. In this instance, for the tunnel across from the tram elevator HECU encampment, consider using a slanted end wall texture, in order to address this protrusion https://i.imgur.com/b6FW9nS.jpg. To match, do the same on the opposite side.
  18. These two tunnel wall lights are not directly across from each other https://i.imgur.com/Z3OTmPB.jpg
  19. At the beginning of the tunnel leading to the electrified water, consider using a slanted edge on the end of this raised wall texture (also extend it to the edge of the tunnel wall) https://i.imgur.com/F9iWYFM.jpg to match the one at the other end https://i.imgur.com/KErG4zv.jpg
  20. Can the ceiling textures in this hallway https://i.imgur.com/83fnnIE.jpg, be better aligned? https://i.imgur.com/xdDq1GB.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/8FPDiOE.jpg. And also here, over the break room https://i.imgur.com/6X1AogM.jpg
  21. Consider vertically centering this crane warning sign https://i.imgur.com/xCcUHnd.jpg
  22. I suggest making these wall textures flush with each other https://i.imgur.com/P5pEcmu.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/B0xa963.jpg
  23. The pipes depicted here https://i.imgur.com/iZwVq7e.jpg have numerous clipping issues with the multifaceted rear wall https://i.imgur.com/2FuvKXS.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/60WrwUO.jpg and here https://i.imgur.com/ls9GsOm.jpg. As well, their wall mounting brackets, besides having wall clipping issues themselves, do not contact the various walls https://i.imgur.com/nDBOQ1t.jpg
  24. Consider placing a “Crane In Operation” caution sign https://i.imgur.com/W77aI75.jpg, here https://i.imgur.com/vnO4jpd.jpg. There should also be some interspersed within the rocket engine room.
  25. Consider placing the brown equipment unit on the right, next to the data tape machine unit, since these probably work in tandem. They also match each other, cosmetically https://i.imgur.com/6vCl9Qz.jpg.
  26. Both track rail stops have a texture flashing issue. See attached pictures 1 and 2 below.
  27. Consider centering the two track rail stops over the rails https://i.imgur.com/IbwHPp8.jpg
  28. I suggest removing this equipment rack, as there’s another one in the rocket engine room already https://i.imgur.com/767tvNn.jpg
  29. This service access door doesn’t appear to be properly rendered https://i.imgur.com/hY3otIK.jpg. It should look like this, used in map C2A2A https://i.imgur.com/AyH897t.jpg. The same service access door appears here https://i.imgur.com/HR1CQWh.jpg here https://i.imgur.com/T4Hbecp.jpg here https://i.imgur.com/JHP5yHh.jpg and here https://i.imgur.com/tDOEZgH.jpg.
  30. This single door into the “Security Rail Override” office, opens outward only https://i.imgur.com/wD6xZsh.jpg. All other single doors in the office complex open both ways.
  31. In a real world mindset, consider moving this sign to the left side of the door https://i.imgur.com/HaGhTUs.jpg, to avoid it being potentially blocked by the door being open.
  32. Beside the cafeteria, the different textures at the base of these doors, needs to be corrected https://i.imgur.com/2tAZy6L.jpg
  33. In the office across from the kitchen, consider extending the carpet all the way to the wall https://i.imgur.com/HkGdKTZ.jpg
  34. In the break room, the border that runs along the perimeter of the carpet at the base of the walls https://i.imgur.com/Rpw7Y4r.jpg, does not along the angled wall https://i.imgur.com/790DQps.jpg
  35. In the break room, the left rear corner of the counter clips into the wall https://i.imgur.com/V6P00jY.jpg and the fridge is clipping into the right side of the counter https://i.imgur.com/vhFI2s1.jpg
  36. At the electrified water, the submerged electrical sub-station clips through a track support beam https://i.imgur.com/0yzgM7S.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/ziuPsuU.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/ZHKmPhN.jpg
  37. Consider removing this fire sprinkler pipe, outside “Storage Room B”, as it looks odd and ends abruptly https://i.imgur.com/zbReQoE.jpg. Same with the one in the office across the the hall https://i.imgur.com/AHUli0P.jpg
  38. At the stairs leading up to the elevated area above the tram elevator HECU encampment, consider removing these two I-beams https://i.imgur.com/C1FvlJe.jpg, as there doesn’t appear to be any apparent reason for them being there. There are no texture seams to be concealed, as is evidenced by the lack of an I-beam across the stairs https://i.imgur.com/SAPdw6T.jpg or in the diagonally opposite corner https://i.imgur.com/oUl85oi.jpg
  39. Consider adding a light here https://i.imgur.com/JiYx7Uy.jpg. It’s just past the tram elevator HECU encampment. Also here https://i.imgur.com/C4dihPj.jpg and here https://i.imgur.com/jsathbH.jpg. These will improve illumination and visual appearances.
  40. At the start of c2a2a1, consider extending this concrete curb to the end of the sidewalk https://i.imgur.com/UIqMBFB.jpg
  41. Concerning concrete curbs with a flat end, consider using a slanted end, as it looks better https://i.imgur.com/RTNFLFU.jpg:
    a) At this location https://i.imgur.com/7fTpZCo.jpg, here https://i.imgur.com/vmDoBEB.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/GLAjths.jpg
    b) And this location https://i.imgur.com/6S3TdOE.jpg, here https://i.imgur.com/O2TElln.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/IFnXqEI.jpg
    c) Here https://i.imgur.com/z8ueYxU.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/NUGNeO1.jpg. Please extend the curbs to the end of the sidewalks.
    d) Across from the tram elevator HECU encampment, here https://i.imgur.com/KAIXsFr.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/7VxdHQ4.jpg
    e) Location https://i.imgur.com/h1GlYx4.jpg, here https://i.imgur.com/ldjPcK1.jpg use this technique https://i.imgur.com/0Zu0bwD.jpg
    f) And here at the next alcove https://i.imgur.com/epqylpU.jpg
  42. This concrete curb protrudes beyond the edge of the metal frame https://i.imgur.com/utuc3jY.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/IbaS2Pg.jpg. The location is across from the tram elevator HECU encampment. It only occurs on the one side.
  43. Can concrete curbs be run along the base of these walls https://i.imgur.com/twC1TiG.jpg and these left and right walls here https://i.imgur.com/0b4Lg7d.jpg in order to match these walls in the same area https://i.imgur.com/v0zubnY.jpg?
  44. The right rear corner of this electrical substation https://i.imgur.com/D5nTDgT.jpg, clips into the wall https://i.imgur.com/0Lr1vxK.jpg. Of the remaining portion of this larger electrical substation, which is clipped into the wall, a part of its pedestal is clipping through the wall https://i.imgur.com/mdHUmGO.jpg
  45. In the corners at the blast door leading to the electrified water https://i.imgur.com/MlhrDNL.jpg, can a raised wall texture be used instead of a flat one, in order to match the adjacent ones (perspective is looking up from below) https://i.imgur.com/fpmHiMX.jpg.
  46. For the two I-beams outside this room https://i.imgur.com/k1PsQbD.jpg, consider using a curb with a slanted end, to where the wall ends https://i.imgur.com/q9qkEbN.jpg and remove the curb that clips through the I-beam https://i.imgur.com/F9ZHlP3.jpg. At the other one, use a curb with a slanted end, up to the I-beam, and remove the curb that clips through it https://i.imgur.com/RcljBFH.jpg
  47. Consider positioning this light here https://i.imgur.com/baxS0CN.jpg directly opposite this light here https://i.imgur.com/dpHzlTF.jpg
  48. In this room https://i.imgur.com/UCuItFz.jpg, the tubes from this machine don’t contact the wall https://i.imgur.com/712lfxK.jpg. Remove this concrete curb, as it’s not needed https://i.imgur.com/dXCKiJa.jpg, then move the electronic equipment closer to the wall.
  49. Consider having these crates spawn on this platform, where their shadows are justified https://i.imgur.com/zLKi5P7.jpg
  50. This desk https://i.imgur.com/rPDP4Hn.jpg clips into the handrail, in a couple of places https://i.imgur.com/TnVv7Rz.jpg

To be continued…
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Can you use propper to create a model out of a group of models? Is that possible? I don’t think so, but I’m not sure. If it is, I would do that, but I really don’t think it is. I’m busy currently, but I’ll test it later to confirm if it is or isn’t.

I wish!

Geography Undergrad, at the London School of Economics. Do your worst, I’ve heard it all!

You may want to give this a glance over.

Propper uses brushes to generate models. I already know this. I’ve used it for that purpose myself many times. What I don’t know is if it can generate models from other models, and it certainly doesn’t say that on that article either.

^ Derp on my part. It’s worth a shot, you MAY want to back up your files before you do do it just in case, so you don’t loose your work. There’s no telling if it’ll fuck up the source files.

Ahhhh… takes me back to my high school geography classes and discovering the fascinating world of glacier alluvial deposits.

Geography… no wonder you love “mapping”!

I think I’d personally prefer to stick with a 50.Cal with variation, as armor only really hit the base a bit after OAR. You can assume that the Marines were rushed in via Ospreys and Humvees that were already stationed there/close to the BMRF–> sort of a QRF, to hold out or attempt to secure the facility till the big guns arrived.

Alternatively you could assume that, since OAR is when the fights really start to break out, moving into the Xenians favor, this fits in quite well as the HECU would have called in the big guns.

It’s still an enclosed underground tunnel network. Bringing any sort of heavy armor into such an environment would a colossally bad idea.

I feel like I have to keep pointing this out. We don’t know when armour arrived, or if the BMRF had any stationed there, we can just assume that the Military would have sent some fairly quickly. We don’t know, we spend most of the game underground and indoors until Surface Tension.

If you’d looked at my first suggestion, you’d see that the one place I was suggesting the LAV to be is literally 2 meters from the tunnel exit on the surface. The only reason it would have been there was to keep Freeman from reaching the Launch Pad.

I read that, and it really isn’t my point. My point is the HECU probably wouldn’t have driven the thing into the tunnels to begin with, Freeman or not, even if it’s right by the exit. MAYBE if they left the door open to give it a space to fall back, but that would mess with the flow of the level, wouldn’t it?

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