Obesity

Our modern lifestyles have lead to a massive increase in Obesity, in England one third of the children, and one in four adults are overweight, and in America the problem is much the same if not worse. Obesity causes massive problem for our national health services, spending millions in buying new equipment and ambulances to cater for them. But is this increase in Obesity in your opinion, an illness or people just being lazy? And how do you feel about those who are obese?

It is a fact that many people are born not being able to digest as much as others without it showing very quickly, but is this for some an excuse? People also eat because they are depressed, depression is very much a sickness, and so that constitutes illness. There are those however that sit around all day, playing games on computers, eating fast food and junk, generally being lazy, that then pile on the pounds, do they deserve our sympathies? And do they make up the majority of the obese and if so, why should our governments fork out millions to look after them? Yes it is basic human rights, but does this not push out those who generally need help more for less selfish reasons?

On the other side of the argument, is it so wrong to be overweight? Should you not be proud of who you are and what you look like? Does it matter what you eat, or that you lack much exercise, just as long as you are enjoying doing what you are doing? Should the press and people be more considerate or more accepting of you regardless of your size? And if you are obese or have suffered from obesity what would you say made you that way and do you find that you are frequently discriminated against because of your size, is that right in your opinion or wrong?

Is the increase in Obesity an illness or laziness?

I am fat. I dunno if I’m to fat for my age and length, but I’m gonne make it all go away when I’m old enough to go to the gym. For me, it’s laziness. But I still eat good food.

Those statistics are a fallacy. There’s a big difference between being overweight (simply above average weight) and obese (overweight to the extent that it’s bad for your body).

One is often confused with the other. Being slightly overweight is actually optimum for health.

Laziness doesn’t have much to do with it in reality, there are people who have a fairly active lifestyle who are obese, but that’s because they eat like a moron. There is definitely a genetic link to how the body processes certain foods and metabolizes fat. Two people could eat exactly the same stuff and live exactly the same lifestyle and one could be obese whilst the other one not.

The reason for obesity is always primarily overeating. Be it that a person is eating meals that are too large, or that they’re eating too much in general.

High Fructose Corn Syrup.

What is funny to me is that medically speaking at 5foot9 medically my weight range is supposed to be between about 130 and 170lbs. I weigh 180lbs, but I am super skinny. All my weight is muscle, as my body fat is next to nothing, but technically I am classified as overweight. I don’t know too many people who have a 28 inch waist, but are generally referred to as ‘overweight’.
My Nintento Wii character looks chubby…and I’m anything but. The term ‘overweight’ is an odd one.

I’m kinda overweight. At least it looks like it. Some people have a sixpack, and others, like me, have a beertank.

And I think the amount of obese and people being overweight is, like Mangled* said: Overeating. I know many people who are overweight who eat a lot. Hell, I even know someone who asks for food EVERY single time someone has candy, or chocolate, or just anything that contains sugar.

Maybe link this thread with the vegetarianism thread?

The two topics aren’t really related, though. I’m sure its possible to be a fatass and also be a vegetarian, although it would be really hard.

Actually vegetarianism often leads to obesity because it lowers metabolism. supplements and non meat alternatives don’t contain what meat does to speed up your metabolism.

I’m fat, but not “Norm” fat.
I’ve been lifting and conditioning at my school gym for football for almost a year now. This should be a good few years.
And if all else fails, I’ll get a liposuction and restart my life.

Or, you know, the opposite of that.

results suggest that vegetarian have a lower risk of overweight and obesity than do omnivorous. The advice to consume more plant foods and less animal products may help individuals control their weight.
https://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/81/6/1267

vegetarian diets may protect against obesity and type 2 diabetes, according to the results of a cohort study reported in the May issue of Diabetes Care.
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/702782

A scientific review in April’s Nutrition Reviews finds that, as expected, a vegetarian diet is highly effective for weight loss.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/04/vegetarian_weight_loss.html

It would have been interesting to see some supporting texts on this. I have googled vegetarianism in the context of obesity and vice versa, but only found counterevidence. See above post for more. I don’t think I need to post much more on that.

Vegetarian Diet takes pounds off

So the topic “Vegetarianism” seems related to this topic after all.

It often leads to weight gain because many people who start a vegetarian diet don’t cut fat intake, while also cutting the intake of chromium, which speeds up the bodies metabolism. Lowering metabolism, while not lowering fat intake causes weight gain. If you can point to some even keeled evidence then present it, and I will recede my comment.

EDIT: Still writing… citing references.

FROM: https://www.annecollins.com/teen-weight-loss-advice.htm

This doesn’t support, but this emphasizes that many who switch to vegetarianism DON’T compensate for lost minerals.

FROM: https://www.caloriesperhour.com/news_060607.php

Sugars and fats are, again, the real enemy here.

FROM: https://www.annecollins.com/hypothyroidism-weight-gain.htm

Giving up the vitamins in meat and supplementing with organic supplements and overload of vegetized vitimins often leads to hypothyroidism over time.

Even leaving aside scientific studies that explicitly prove you wrong, your comment is already “receded” because of your total and complete lack of supporting evidence, “even keeled” or otherwise. :smiley:

Vegetarianism + Obesity = Doin it wrong.

I used to be fat, but since 8th grade (im in 10th now) i’ve been doing intense full body workouts 3 to 4 times a week and im on a high protein diet, fucking jacked.

None of your references support a statistical link between obesity and vegetarianism. On the other hand, there is a factual, documented statistical link between vegetarianism and lower incidence of obesity.

What is wrong with being fat?

Nothing, its just some people, like me, can’t stand being fat, I also hate being skinny which is why I workout.

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