They’re alive, per say; as alive as a piece of grass. They’re just not intelligent beings. People get touchy when the unintelligible mass of flesh looks like a human baby, though. Would we cut the grass so often if it looked like babies?
Fun fact: A fetus is a human as much as a baby is a human. No, its not fully grown, but it will be.
uhh i said if it can live on its own, retard. an 8 month old fetus is viable.
and no lol a fetus is NOT A PERSON. it doesnt matter what its GOING to be
a goddamn cow isnt a hamburger, its a cow.
How is that in any way relevant? Most children and all babies cannot live without their parents to feed them, doesn’t mean they aren’t alive.
… its relevant because its a reply to what he said?
Fun fact: your fun fact is bullshit.
A baby has intelligence.
EEGs show no mental activity on a first trimester fetus. They’re alive- as alive as a wart.
and didnt see that edit.
its different because a fetus is FEEDING DIRECTLY OFF YOU. you cannot help that
a parent doesnt have their nutrients stolen by a little parasite after the crotch dropping pops out.
this is the definition for parasite
S: (n) parasite (an animal or plant that lives in or on a host (another animal or plant); it obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host)
a fetus fits that, a baby doesnt
Intelligence is meaningless, it is the potential for intelligence that matters. No matter what you say, you can’t get around the fact that every fetus that is aborted means that there is one person who will never live. I’m okay with this, but the fact that some people are in denial is just sad.
Fancy, you act as if some magical transformation occurs when the fetus leaves the womb. Yes, its no longer feeding off the woman, but it is still feeding of her money and her time. There is absolutely no difference. A baby is as parasitic as a fetus, you just choose to arbitrarily change the date something become human in an attempt to justify your moral decisions.
It has the potential to turn into a human.
An egg has the potential to turn into a chicken.
A caterpillar has the potential to turn into a butterfly.
If intelligence is meaningless, what separates our moral evaluation of a fetus -> baby, from these?
Nothing.
uh no its not as parasitic considering a fetus is a literal parasite. and no, i dont need to justify anything because there’s NOTHING TO JUSTIFY. there’s nothing wrong with a woman choosing to remove an actual parasite, feeding off her nutrients, decreasing her quality of life, limiting her mobility, making her miserable etc if she chooses.
you’re not alive until you’re born. you’re not a human until you’re born. until then, you’re a fetus and a parasite, and if your host chooses to get rid of you well then that’s too damn bad for you.
@Someoneprtntious The same principle applies when you find a way to use stem cells to animate hamburger into a sentient organism.
Of questionable difference. Having children has been shown to decrease ones quality of life, at least until one reaches old age. Is there any difference between taking nutrients and taking money that would go to buy nutrients? The answer is no. A child is a parasite, like it or not, and arguing pedantics accomplishes nothing.
… yes there is a difference what the fuuuck are you taaalking abouuutttt do you not know what a parasite is or do you just feel like being a difficult fuck who likes to pretend he has a valid opinion on womens rights
Not in Canada. You could pretty well make a living out of assulting people and suing them for fighting back.
A baby is a baby when it separates from the woman. At the time of pregnancy, it is still a part of the woman. At birth, it becomes a baby. At the point of baby-hood, the life gains legal rights. Some governments apply some legal rights to the life before birth as well.
But “baby” begins at birth. Before then, it’s a “fetus”, not a “baby”.
Yes, there’s a difference between taking nutrients and taking money. Also, parasites are defined as being a separate species from the host organism.
Just sayin’.
I’m just going to state my opinions and then ask a brief question.
The world and the economy is shit, it’s going to stay shit for a while (especially in the United States), and there’s plenty of people as it is (almost 7 billion, soon to be 8 billion). Would it really be worth letting someone (who in the first place, never asked to be born) grow up in such a backasswards world full of pain or is better to spare a fetus of all of these pains and agonies via a quick death?
Edit: Also Also, chart of gestational ages in which fetuses were aborted in the U.K. in 2004
… and the United States
If you notice, there were no (or very few) abortions in the latter of the second trimester and the third trimester in both countries
Also, I don’t mean to mini-mod, but please for god’s sake no pictures of abortions being performed or what the fetus looks like after an abortion. I’ve seen pictures when I used to attend “Religious Education” courses and I don’t wish to see them again.
I will admit its fun.
Protip: Parasite can also refer to a person who feeds of others without giving anything back like, say, a child.
Everyone that says that the world and the economy is shit need to time travel back to the “good old days”. Yes, there are problems, some pretty major, today, but it’s much better than it used to be.
yes but that isnt the actual definition of parasite and i think you should have been aborted
and no, parasites dont have to be different species. the male anglerfish is technically a parasite.