Microsoft's arrogance

Technology and Gaming
#181

Russilker
Pretty fair claim, but only graphics-wise.
As for overall quality and creativity opportunities, them both are equal. As we all (I hope) agree, graphics, while being an essential part of the game, are only one side of the coin.

You cannot deny that there were glitches/crashes because of certain hardware parts that were not initially compatible.

okay, I’ll rephrase. Making games for consoles ismore hassle-free because of the less amount of patching needed. We all meant that (at least I did for sure).

Porting is a completely another story.

#182

I agree, but only if the patching was needed due to hardware related issues (if it’s a game glitch then the consoles will most likely have the same glitch).

You said that the large amount of variety in computer hardware can make the development of a video game harder for computers because you have to make sure the game works on all combinations. Yet when I ask you what part in the development stage requires extra attention to make sure it works on all hardware you fail to give me an answer. Without an example that’s like saying “if I make a videogame there’s a 50% chance it won’t work on nVidia graphics processors”.

A legitimate answer could have been “the need to change a game engine to support 64-bit which allows us to use more memory and thus increase the quality of the game materials”.

#183

Fair enough.

So Let’s just this thread die. It already had more than it deserved.

#184

I know that i will get trolled by ODB and others for this, but here goes:

From my own observations that I’ve made over the years, the whole pc vs console war is not as much about game compatibility, as of ease of use. It kinda goes like this
Ubuntu (or other linux-based OS) is usually the most difficult to master, due to its ability to be changed and modified to accommodate various software. This can be named the Elite OS.

After Linux we have the Windows OS. This one is made for the regular consumer. It is simple, pretty, and all-in-all the all-round ever-useful tool that people use. Has some ability to be changed, but not much, and is compatable with 99% of available software.

After Windows we got the Macs. These are even more simple, but limited in terms of software. Macs have almost no ability to be changed and/or heavily modified. they are for those who want the least amount of problems but still want the mobility of a computer.

And at last, at the bottom of the ladder, we got the consoles. These are exceedingly and boringly simple to use, made to be used by anybody, even those who have no brains. They require minimal setup/supervision, have the least errors and require the least amount of attention to work and use.

Basically what I am trying to say, the consoles are made for people who do not want to think for themselves and who hate any kind of challenge, while PCs are made for people that want to think at least partially for themselves. Thus the consoles will surpass the PCs due to the fact that the new generation is being raised on the ground of simplicity and ease of use, and thus they will not be able/ will not want something that requires brainpower to use.

#185

With pleasure.

#186

Most of the console games which are imported to PC suck. that’s my opinion

#187

poop

#188

I loved the Valvefag comment, not only is it homophobic, it’s just stupid. I am a console gamer and a PC gamer. I still always buy shooters on the PC and racing games etc on console. There is absolutely no statistical evidence the PC is dieing.

Yes it is true that FPS’s are now big on consoles, and naturally consoles outsell PC games as they ALWAYS have. So we can come to the conclusion that FPS’s sell more on consoles than on PC. But that is a completely different situation to saying that the FPS is dead on Pc or anything along those lines. According to Steam statistics the FPS is actually healthier on Pc now than it has ever been.

Edit- Another thought is that there hasn’t been any interesting developments in the FPS in probably 10 years or so, this is probably due to consoles and their obsession with what is essentially just Team Deathmatch multiplayer modes. Where we Pc gamers got our fill of that in the early 90s, to our simple console friends this whole multiplayer thing is new. Oh and what Niataur said, living with a Mac owning Xbox playing flatmate, I can comfirm their intelligence levels are rather low.

#189

Succesful troll: confirmed.
And by the way. Homophobic? You pretty much called it on yourself right now.

That’s like the quintessential elitist comment.

#190

Fag is infact incredibly homophobic.

#191

:expressionless:

Okay

#192

he didn’t mean it in the homophobic way, don’t look for a fight where there isn’t one

#193

Regardless of whether it’s meant to be homophobic it still is. You wouldn’t use the N word because of it’s associations, and it should be exactly the same with the F word. In fact I would say it is in the UK. I’m a firm believer that if you wouldn’t say it in front of someones face it shouldn’t be said at all.

#194
#195

Like two men sunbathing together on a beach, or something like that.

#196

Homophobic =/= homosexual :bulb:

#197

:expressionless: He did not mean it.
What the hell is wrong with you guys? And you take umbrage when someone calls you stupid.

#198

x768

[COLOR=‘Black’]Decipher, THAT!

#199

I mean, really. In return for honesty, all you get here is “HURR DURR TROLL” nonsense.
You pretty much call it on yourself.

#200

Ignoring the rest of this thread I would like to say this.

PC gaming will never die as long as there are people wanting to game on PCs. Thus PC FPS will never die as long a s PC gaming is around.

The upstart in FPS on consoles is only really do to a shift in gamers tastes. FPS has had a boom in popularity of the last ten years.

However judging the heart beat of FPS on a lack of major PC exclusives is stupid. With developers wanting to make as much money as possible and being bigger to develop for more platforms exclusives as a whole are dying out. The only reason they are still here is the console wars wanting that extra thing to encourage people to buy their console not the other and even this is becoming rarer because 3rd party developers are asking more and more for them.

TL;DR PC FPS hasn’t gone anywhere, Consoles players have acquired a taste for FPS.

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