Microsoft joins arms with Apple in the war against Adobe

Technology and Gaming
#1

Long title ftw.

Anyway, I’m sure you all know that Apple is trying to get rid of Flash for most, if not all of the dynamic content on the web today. They’re pushing HTML5 and H.264 decoding to the frontline because Flash has too many issues (related to reliability, security and performance).

Ever since Apple announced the iPad and the obvious refusal of Flash, Adobe has been taking shots at Apple, claiming that Apple is making a mistake and that they won’t succeed in pushing HTML5 to replace 90% of the current dynamic web content.

Today, Microsoft has announced that they too will be pushing HTML5 and H.264 decoding in Internet Explorer (and thus in everything they ship outside of Windows). And while they aren’t as aggressive in its attacks on Adobe as Apple, they still back the same reasons Apple has given in order to get rid of Flash: security, performance and reliability. And while MS still claims that Flash will remain an important part of the web, I feel that there’s no future left. Flash videos (like the kind you find on newgrounds.com) will swap over to H.264, and Flash sites haven’t been around since 2006.

I think Adobe got stuck in a war it cannot win, and I’m happy about that. I never liked Flash and I welcome the swap to a more reliable web experience with open arms. I think Adobe should cave in and just drop their efforts to keep Flash on top of the dynamic web, and start looking for solutions for HTML5.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Flash is dead web technology.

#2

I agree. I haven’t seen a whole lot of HTML5, but what I’ve seen is great. I had a plugin in Chrome for awhile (before youtube made HTML5 videos themselves) that changed flash to HTML5 and I noticed a huge performance and quality boost. Hopefully that becomes the norm.

And I didn’t realize flash sites were ever popular, rather distasteful and irritating to navigate.

#3

Amen (to both posts)!

So Microsoft decided to implement HTML5 for IE? It was about time.

#4

I do not think there is anything wrong with Flash. Big-time corporations are hyperoptimistic pussies IMO.

#5

Who the hell decided that HTML5 would be a good name? Nothing with a name like that will be able to ward off Flash.

Oh, and I don’t think that Flash will disappear until Google stop using it, due to it being used on Youtube and therefore known to everyone.

#6

youtube has already a HTML5 beta.
and what’s wrong with the name HTML5???

#7

Eh. It’s about time.

#8

Flash is a huge CPU hog and is only good for short cartoons or free games, I think (and always thought) the idea of streaming videos through it on such a large scale is totally ridiculous.

#9

This a million times over, and then some. It uses around 100% of one of my 2.00GHz CPU cores; something even Source doesn’t do.

#10

whats that you say about HTML 5? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhMN0wlITLk

#11

the new gpu accelerated flash beta is much better.

Although gaming is possible in HTML 5 I don’t see it taking the crown from flash for at least a good number of years.

#12

So that’s why youtube pauses videos that are supposed to have enough data cached for at least 10 seconds, it’s the plugin. Well, i hope they fix that stuff soon then.

#13

Yeah and flash 10 only has a crappy doom 1 port :stuck_out_tongue:

#14

HTML5 is the new HTML standard. The video codec isn’t named HTML5, in fact there isn’t a standard codec for HTML5, but h.264 seems to be gaining the most momentum. It is in fact the codec that Youtube (Google) is switching to. Educate yourself :retard:

#15

only reason why microsoft is doing that is so there “version” of flash (which is Silverlight) will be more popular. My dad acctuly programs production content with java, silverlight, and flash, and he says that the best one of the three is Silverlight, becuase its easy to use and it has never once crashed on him

#16

Fantastic news, but since web developers will still have to support old IE browsers that don’t support HTML5 for a long time to come it’s not going to change anything overnight. In the meantime I guess there’s always javascript for all your normal flash needs.

A nice step in the right direction though.

Adobe are only pissed off because they haven’t got their money’s worth from Flash yet anyway.

#17

Nah there only honestly pissed, cause all there gonna be useful for now is photoshop, there being done and ditched.

:retard:

#18

What about Dreamweaver, fireworks, premier pro and after effects?

#19

acrobat

#20

they all pretty much runs on flash right? which means yeah if the two BIGGEST (hate to say it) computer os companies in the world stop using flash.

which begs many many questions, im not gonna go there.

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