I've had enough of this onboard crap card.

Technology and Gaming Help and Support
#1

Well as the title suggests I am tired of this onboard card and I’m getting a quick fix, there will be no “backing out and waiting for a batter build” so don’t try and make me change my mind to wait and save for a $600 Gaming rig or a better GPU.

Here’s what I’m looking at:
Radeon HD 6670 - $70 From what I’ve seen a minimum of 400W is required, but I’ve used the newegg PSU guesstimator thingamabob (The PSU wattage suggestor) and they suggest a 309W PSU. But If I do upgrade my PSU I’ll have to get a cheaper card. My current PSU is a factory default Dell Inspiron 518 and I’m 99% sure it’s 300W.

or

Radeon HD 6450 - $50, $40 after rebate - I heard it has a minimum of 400W also, but I also heard that it may work with my default 300W(I’m not going to risk it though) so I guess a new PSU is unavoidable.

I plan on selling Battlefield 3 and Halo anniversary so I should get around $70(not at gamestop) as much as I love my limited edition copy.

Please not I have picked cards with fans as I don’t think my PC’s default fan is good enough.

Do you think there are better cards available at this price and that can support a 400W to 500W PSU, I know I’m being cheap and I know it won’t be good for dedicated gaming, overheats, ect. This is just an upgrade from an onboard, I can’t take this onboard anymore. It’s holding me back from enjoying all my favorite games. My bro wan’t me to play DCU with him and my onboard is crap, EVE Online has updated and my onboard is now obsolete, I have to change any source game to -dxlevel 80 so it will play properly, I can’t even play newer source games like l4d, l4d2, and Portal 2.

TL;DR
Time to face the facts my pc is a pile of shit, and it’s time to upgrade. I can’t afford a new PC now or in the foreseeable near-future (1 or 2 years). So I am only upgrading my GFX card and PSU.

#2

If you can afford it you can find 6750’s for around $85 (although this is after mail in rebates from what I’ve seen) and they run on 450W PSUs. They would be much better than a 6670 for not much more money.

Also, as far as PSUs go, do not simply get the cheapest you can find. Try to find actual reviews of them and buy name brand. I’ve had my motherboard fried by a cheap PSU in the past and learned this lesson the hard way. Also, make sure that your case takes ATX PSUs. Some Dells use proprietary PSUs and won’t take the standard ATX ones.

#3

I know you said “no waiting for a batter build”, but I think you should wait for a better build :stuck_out_tongue:

#4

The PSU should surpass the requirements.

#5

I’d hate to see how you perform now if you think a $75 card is a good thing

#6

Trust me any card is better than an onboard card. ANYTHING… Even a cheap $10 card. so anywahy.

I need links to some good and low priced PSU’s.

https://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=544429&CatId=1078

That one seems okay, but I’m no expert on PSU’s.

#7

no it just depends on how good the onboard graphics card is. Obviously it is shit but it doesnt make all onboard cards shit.

#8

oh no. Just don’t go cheapgoat on the psu. Sometimes the wattage promised is no way close to what you actually get. I just can’t stress this enough: Get a decent psu, and you can add shit later. I’m guessing your economy just doesn’t allow a good rig so…There are a number of good advices here right now so…start with the backbone and work your way out.

#9

Depends on the games he’s trying to play, right? :slight_smile: I meen a nice 486 DX4 should run Ultimate Doom allright…

#10

Sorry, I didn’t mean all onboards. Just mine, I’ve actually seen some onboards capable of playing Arma II, Battlefield 3, and even Skyrim with okay settings and decent speeds.

Also I guess I’ll try to start with a good PSU then work my way up.

These seem ok right?

Long story short my Max for PSU is $44

ebay PSUs: (not sure about these as some might be broken scams)
Hercules Black ATX Dual Fan 600W Silent Power Supply

Quiet 750 Watt Intel AMD PC ATX Power Supply SATA PCI-E

Cooler Master ATX12V RP-500-PCAR 500 Watt Power Supply

Newegg: (I picked these because they had they seemed best for my range)
APEVIA ATX-CW500WP4 500W ATX Power Supply (I like the rebate on this one XD)

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-530SS 530W

hec HP585D RETAIL 585W ATX12V

Rosewill Stallion Series RD500-2DB 500W ATX12V

TigerDirect/CompUSA: (Sometimes I find better prices here than newegg.)
Ultra GPB400S LS Limited Edition ATX Power Supply - ATX, 450-Watt, Dual +12V Rails, 72% Efficient, Lifetime Warranty with Registration (It just sounds awesome XD)

Ultra GPB500S LS Limited Edition ATX Power Supply - ATX, 550-Watt, Dual +12V Rails, 72% Efficient, Lifetime Warranty with Registration (I won’t make any promises, but I can TRY to push my limit for this one.)

Ultra GPB500S-B Limited Edition ATX Power Supply - 550W, Dual +12V Rail, Ultra Silent, Limited Edition

Ultra LSP450 450-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, 135mm Fan

DiabloTek PHD450 450-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA Ready, PCIe Ready, 20+4 Pin

There are more, but these are my top pics.

#11

I always heard the rule of thumb with PSUs is to buy a proven good name brand.

#12

I’ve heard good things about Ultra, Crosair, Coolmaster, and some DiabloTek

#13

Coolermaster is fine as long it’s not the extreme power plus series

#14

I had my generic, pre-built issue, 400w PSU blow up on me two weeks ago after installing an nvidia geforce 560.
Luckily it didn’t fry my motherboard or the expensive ass card I was forcing it to power, but I wouldn’t try it again.

Electricity doesn’t like being treated like a bitch, and it can potentially take out your other components in the event of an overload.
Get a slammin’ PSU that will hold you over for future upgrades.

#15

Lol yeah, I plan on getting a strong well built 500W+ PSU. It should hold me down for future upgrades until I get a motherboard with ATI/AMD Crossfire on it.

#16

I’ve got an Intel 945gm, I can play most games upto TF2 and stuff but I really want a new Computer all together.

#17

Ouch man, I think my onboard is only a little-bit newer (G31/33 Express Chipset)
but it performs a bit better than that one(from what I’ve seen on youtube at least), I’m no expert ,but If you have the money to then I suggest do what they say and build one from scratch here: PC Part Picker. That website makes the process alot smoother and easier.

So, how much do you have for your build? If you don’t have much like me you could just build it part by part starting with the PSU, or you could go the other way and just save up, doesn’t make a huge difference.

#18

On-board graphic cards are AWESOME!

My Laptop’s specs are easily high enough to run Crysis 2 on recommended settings, but due to my on-board graphics card I struggle to run games from 2000.
Of course, when I bought this laptop I had decided that I wouldn’t be playing games on it, I would be using it for work and occasionally watching movies. I had my ‘hard work ethics’ hat on.
Several months later I had thrown away my hard work hat and just wanted to play games on the thing.

I can play WoW due to it’s low demands, but I can only do so on low settings and even then I’m lucky to get above 20fps.

This is what most people see… (at this resolution I get 1 frame every 5 seconds)

800×500 54.3 KB

This is what I see…

800×500 21.2 KB

Why did I chose a laptop over a tower? I was moving to Japan so couldn’t take anything large with me.

#19

Didn’t mean to start up this tread again, but are these PSUs any good and will they be stable with gaming? (And which is the best price+performance.)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182044

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817517001

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817101011

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817101048

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121024

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817822003

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339022

#20

I’d go with the Antec based purely on the quality of the brand. PSU is definitely something you don’t want to go no name on

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