something about him not understanding the 7 hour war?
Don’t worry, that was on porpoise.
That was on porpoise too.
And that was one was also on porpoise.
And that one as well.
(Gordon and I share a love of riding porpoises)
I would vote something about a mishap between “7 Hour War” and “Portal 1.” But I would like to explain that the reason I said “7 Hour War” was because GLaDOS’s comment implies that Chell was testing awhile after the Resonance Cascade. Considering the comment, coupled with GLaDOS’s omniscience, it implied that not only would Portal 2 occur 100 years after Portal 1, but the 7 Hour War as well. That’s my excuse.
None of those things implied any of those things, although the Portal 2 info released has suggested that portal 1 takes place after the events of HL2, and Portal 2 takes place centuries after Portal 1.
I was really under the influence that GLaDOS’s comment, “The world outside has changed. I may be the only thing between us and them.” really seemed to have implied that the RC had occurred, and she was defending Aperture from the Combine. I also was not saying that her comment implied that Portal 2 took place centuries later. Now, to get back on topic…
Maybe Gordon always was the bad person, but since we only play from a first-person view with limited knowledge about ourselves, we could be playing the constant enemy. Not only do we disregard the constant technical difficulties within Black Mesa, but in perspective, perhaps Earth was originally a Combine planet? Perhaps the Combine were attempting to retrieve their lost planet from humanity. Then that would give Gordon the extra-evil card. Perhaps that thermos in his locker was orange juice, for drinking directly after brushing his teeth…
EENH! wrong; my thread. im not done dissecting you.
that GLaDOS comment has been discussed to death, so i don’t know why you’re even bringing it up, or adding the RC to it.
where did i say anything about you saying anything about centuries later? i’m just drawing from the Portal 2 podcasts, and the other info released in conjunction.
/pointless derail
I didn’t say Gordon is evil…why is everyone suddenly debating whether gordon is or is not evil? That’s just stupid.
It was Gordon Frohman and his cheeze! Not Gordon Freeman.
Gordon Frohman is a moron, maybe Freeman was the one who gave him the cheese :fffuuu:
I said Gordon was evil, but you said no…
ANYWAY…
If Freeman gave him the cheese, how did Frohman manage to mix it up? More importantly, when did he even get close enough to do it? Wasn’t GINA on Xen sample duty?
Actually he may of made the proposition at the end because he may have needed too. Either way the G-man was going to make gordon work for him. he wanted him to feel like he had a choice. The reason for this (if he was controlling him) might be that gordon can break free of his control but making gordon seem like he has a choice which doesnt make it seem likes hes controlled. An example of breaking free is with the vorigant help in ep2.
How does the g-man watch gordon through his eyes? When did that lnk develope? If he knew that gordon was the man who was conducting the experiment it seems perfectly logical that he would get to him before hand and start some ‘control’ over him. Its almost as if the g-man posesses him.
The first time the G-man was actually unsettled or angry was in ep2 while at the end of half life 1 he was talking as if he already knew what was goign to happen because he knew he had control over him no matter what he did. Either way you look at this theory there can be reasons on both side. But when some ‘Control’ abilty is involved and people dont know it then anything can be a theory. Also i doubt that gordon is ‘the Bad Guy’ but more of an innocent puppet. because valves approach is that gordon is the player and they would never make the player the bad guy beacuse that doesnt make them feel good. if there the ‘Good Guy’ then it makes them happy to play that character .
Because Frohman is a moron, He must’ve been the one who gave Gina the sample, and Gina can’t tell the difference between cheese and dangerous extradimensional crystals
What I said here wasn’t mean to be a theory or somehing…I didn’t want to say that the G-man controls Freeman.
I was just trying to explain that this speech from the vortigaunt wasn’t to be interpreted “to the first level”, and that it was probably a part of Valve’s irony: the “entity behind Gordon’s eyes” could be the G-man (getting a look, not controling, what Gordon do) or even just THE PLAYER HIMSELF. This speech is probably a reference to these two. And probably more to the second one.
In other words, I just wanted to say that this speech can’t be easily used to extract informations about the storyline.
I like the theory, but you’re wrong on some parts, or these can be explained:
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You don’t “wake up” in Half-Life, in 2, yes, but in 1, the game just starts inn the tram.
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Gordon (apparently at least) was late due to H.E.V. Training I believe.
3.Although some sabotaging would probably explain the equipment malfunctions, it could also be because the place is so damn old, or just a coincidence. I say the sabotaging is most likely though.
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I can’t say much about Decay, because I’ve only played it once on the PS2, and that was damn near a decade ago.
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Yes, he was always watching Gordon, but that could mean he was making sure his “plan” goes according to plan, and he can change the outcome if Gordon does something that “G-Man” doesn’t want (The end of Half-Life 2 for example). He was also watching Adrian Shephard, Probably for similar reasons.
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How many games similar to Half-Life do you write? Gordon never really needs to, or has the opportunity to write anything, whatever it could be. And the talking, is probably not 100% part of the storyline, and merely a way for the player to feel as though he is Gordon.
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That’s probably just making sure nobody knows too much of what’s going on, but they know that some grim shit’s about to go down.
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Although it is very strange that Gordon’s reputation is so great, and that you have a point that a few scientists could have spread so much, remember who the most important surviving Scientists are? Eli Vance, and Isaac Kleiner, who survived, know Gordon Freeman, and lead the uprising, could have told tons of tales about Mr. Freeman, and them ranking so high, could be why so many believe it. Although it is unusually why they assume he knows so much about combat. I don’t think many lived to see that, and survive.
I don’t mean to try and say “Oh, this theory is stupid!It doesn’t make sense!” because I actually like your theory, I just think alot of aspects to it could be explained.