Ever been to a child indoctrination center? Sorry, I mean, a religious school?
and they were entirely ethically sound. silly me, forgetting like that 
The problem is that you are assuming that these children would be unhappy. It’s because you are judging this situation entirely from your own perspective - if you were on their place your life would be considerably worse. If these children spent all their life in a spaceship their would call it a home, the conditions would be hard but they would get used to it very quickly if they were raised there. All that matters are the people we have to share our life with - if they had loving parents their life would be much better than a life of kids that grew up in pathological families on Earth.
There are other reason why we won’t build an interstellar spaceship in the nearest future - we don’t have technology that would allow it and even if we had, building such a spacecraft would be unimaginably expensive, not mentioning that such a mission would have a very little chances of succeeding. The only reason that would justify building it would be an inevitable global disaster that could wipe out all humanity.
You guys think people would adapt to planets with 100x Gravity like Dragonball Z? :retard:
She must have the busiest job in the world with all those constant meetings and shit.
I’m definitely convinced that there’s extra terrestrial life. I’ve seen enough of how infinitely big the universe is, and to believe that only our planet sustains intelligent life amongst billions upon billions of other planets is just arrogant really.
I also sometimes think about life that we cannot perceive. Who says there aren’t beings on the moon, or Mars, or even on Earth that we cannot perceive with our limited senses?
Bring any souvenirs?
There we go again - Godwin’s Law ftw! This thread can be closed now.
Actually scientists today say that life forms on earth were the result of a incredible luck. Huge numbers of factors made that possible, and the chances that such thing happens to ONE single other planet in the universe is low, even with an idea of how big it is.
The place of our solar system is in the galaxy is perfect,
The place of our planet in the solar system is perfect for life and water,
Our sun is perfect,
Jupiter protected earth from asteriods allowing evolution to do its job (One got through and fked up dinausaurs) With its huge gravity it captured most incoming rocks,
The Moon, witch probably resulted from an impact with something planet wide on mars or earth, also made life and evolution possible.
Plus an infinity of other less probable stuff, like not having a black hole near or being in the line of fire of a matter expulsion from a just born black hole
No all the alien races I encountered insisted on not giving anything, so I wouldn’t have any proof. There isn’t an alien race out there that thinks we’re ready for first contact yet.
Pre-warp, you know?
It’s actually very, very high.
EDIT: Also, Mass Effect is just a wet dream of what I hope Mars will be. We can’t really say for not if there are ruins hidden on Mars. It definitely had life at one point. It’s not truly known what destroyed it’s atmosphere, except that it’s core went solid.
Anyway aside from that, take “The Crescent of Civilization” between the Tigris and Euphrates, for example. We would not have known anything about them since their written records were destroyed, had we not excavated and found fragments of written language, cuneiform. Just about nothing of the Martian surface has been explored, and I can say for sure the rover “Spirit” isn’t a damn archaeologist, it’s just playing in the dirt.
I’d like to take a few moments and go through dblkion’s post.
That’s actually not true. “Huge numbers of factors” for human beings perhaps but who says life has to be human? The life around deep sea vents aren’t human.
For us.
Again, for us.
Our star is unremarkable. Stars like ours are a dime a dozen.
Ah, the old “Jupiter is a vacuum” canard. Jupiter sometimes pulls space junk away from us and sometimes it directs things directly AT us.
Not necessarily. The rotation of the Earth creating an unstable atmosphere of pockets of high and low pressures would cause waves to form and could form life in the primordial oceans.
To paraphrase Douglas Adams on this subject:
“The puddle looked around itself and thought, ‘Isn’t it amazing that this hole is so perfectly shaped for me? It’s almost as if it were carved to fit me perfectly. The odds of this hole naturally occurring must be astronomical to be such a perfect fit for me so therefore an intelligent hole designer must exist.’”
Oh people… missing the point…
What’s more ethical: Hitler Youth or Young Pioneers ?
I’ll give you a hint. One is sane, gentle, inquisitive, and noble… and the former is insane, tortuous, narrow-minded, and selfish.
Besides, what’s all this talk about ethics, I thought we were speaking of scientific progress.
That quote by Douglas Adams is the easiest win, even if the loser doesnt know/understand it.
I’ve just come back from a Tasmanian holiday so I can confirm that creatures come from planets other than earth.
@ danielsangeo
What I said is still right even for very basic lifeforms, it might be much more possible but still the factors needed are huge.
And I don’t believe completly different life forms based on other elemets or whatever can exist, science fiction stays science fiction.
Ofc this can be discussed long but we will never get the answers as we will most likely never see anything living outside of our own solar system.
I’m not english and hardly understand your quote from Douglas Adams, can you explain it a little ?
@ Medevilae
Life could not appear on mars, the planet did not old its liquid water long enough because of its lack of gravity, thats another proof of the need of perfect conditions to see life appear.
Someone explain chance to this guy 
Okay. The universe is infinite, right?
That means, every possible combination of distance, size, heat, etc, etc, must exist, right?
Therefore, there is a 100% chance that life will exist on another planet, because there is a 100% chance that all the factors needed to sustain any form of life will happen somewhere else in the universe. And don’t forget, the factors don’t have to be exactly the ones on earth to sustain life, it can be off by a bit, and evolution is a funny little thing in that, given time, it can adapt anything to any environment.
The universe is finite according to the Big Bang theory, but it’s expanding.