Evolution vs Creation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Religion
https://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/darwin-birthday-believe-evolution.aspx

SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY STRONG CORRELATION IMO
doesn’t surprise me, seeing as to follow a religion it’s pretty much required to abandon all traces of logical thought or individuality. owell!

great point

in some countries (Iran etc.) you get killed. In my country you are free to express your opinion but probably hordes of freaking maniacs will attack you before you can finish your sentence if you are in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

Edit: You can get attacked if you kiss with your gf in public (this happens very rarely, though.) and other stuff like that.

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I’d like to take a moment to point out that while I count myself as a christian, but do not participate in organized religion, as it were. Mostly because I couldn’t be around people who were such sheep that they’d follow a single family of bigots over the minister, who was a great guy, but is no longer the minister of that particular church as a result.
I follow the basic teachings of the religion, ie. the morals, but I also believe in what’s been proven with science, and God, because I simply don’t believe a force as great as the Big Bang could have just happened randomly.

So, yeah, you’re at the very least generalizing. And that statement seems very closed-minded of you.

Before you make such a statement I suggest you learn the actual theory first, a crucial step many creationists ‘forget’

YOU ARE A GIGANTIC FUCKING IDIOT.[/SIZE]

i cannot put that more simply, i CANNOT put that nicely. you are a fucking idiot. if instead of trying to figure out something you don’t understand, you attribute it to a fucking genie and say you’re done with it, i HATE you. that shit is honestly one of the most disgusting things you can do. you fucking take the logical capabilities evolution has given you as a human and you throw them right the fuck away. but oh no, like i said, THINKING IS HARD. why would you read about the various explanations that scientists are working to verify? READING IS HARD! don’t fucking subject yourself to new information or anything like that, just stick with your fucking superstitions and never get any smarter.

holy fuck i hate christians.

Don’t throw your pearls to the pigs. If someone makes a foolish argument, don’t spend you energy discussing because you won’t accomplish anything with that. Unless the discussion is healthy, in which case you don’t need to get angry anyway, just show your arguments.

@JeffMOD, I don’t actually mean your arguments are foolish, just wrong, but Fancy Pants overreacted a little.

Sorry, I just kept thinking of that while I was reading this, but I agree with you Fancy Pants despite the name-calling

Right, because Americans are a representative group of all people in the world…

It’s funny that a person who believes in a peaceful coexistence of people with different cultural background is so much aggressive in a discussion and cannot respect other people believes. You are a fucking hypocrite.

oh right i keep forgetting that thinking people should be allowed to live anywhere they want without fearing for their lives is the same thing as approving of someone being willfully ignorant.

saying “HERP DERP I DONT UNDERSTAND IT SO ITS WRONG DURRR” has nothing to do with your cultural background.
kill yourself, you racist fuck.

I paraphrased slightly. Apologies if I offend:

Sorry, but I don’t see a reason to respect what other people believe merely because they believe it.

If someone believed that the moon was made of cheese, that would not command respect. If someone believed that a cat was going to steal their breath in the middle of the night, that would not command respect. If someone believed that their computer was suddenly going to go on a murderous rampage, that would not command respect.

Sorry, but merely believing something does not mean I’m obligated to respect it.

When someone’s beliefs in some way affect you then sure, say what you want, but when if it doesn’t then it’s better to keep your opinion to yourself. Otherwise you can just unnecessary inflame conflict, someone who does that certainly doesn’t owe any respect.

Allowing any people to live anywhere they want may just as well raise another conflicts and if you don’t understand that then you are hell stupid - see how Aliyah ended up. Believing that people who were raised up in different belief systems can always live together peacefully and at the same time being aggressive towards someone who doesn’t think the same way you do IS a fucking hypocrisy. Oh yeah, and I would forget - FUCK YOU.

Oh fucking baw. Again, that’s got NOTHING TO DO WITH CULTURE. if anything their culture should lead them to fucking NOT be as retarded as they are. nothing you say holds any water, so shut up and either talk about the topic at hand or get the fuck out and hate brown people somewhere else.

I understand your rage, but the goal is to show these people the truth through reason and logic. Using such language is only going to increase their anger towards people who debunk their beliefs.

Religious people are immune to logic though.

I agree completely.

I apologize the criticism, Fancy Pants, but you are acting very much like many Christians I know. Almost all (if not all) Christians I know don’t really respect other people (despite saying that they do and being very devout), they don’t respect differences and always use rage to attack people that disagree with them. Obviously, that’s not what Jesus taught at all.

Attacking them back with rage will only increase theirs. Again, if you think what you say might convince the other person, than say it civilly. If you start felling rage, than it’s better that you don’t say anything.

Not all of them, mind you. Most of them fight back irrationally, but when they become a bit more mature, a few of them may realize you were right. I’m a very good example of this. I used to be an intolerant, partially irrational Christian, and the main reasons I fought back irrationally was fear of rejection of becoming a truly bad person if I stopped believing. And, of course, fear of Hell.

Incredibly, fear of Hell made me a much worse person than I am without religion :slight_smile:

I believe the best way to show they are wrong is have them interact with atheists, specially good atheists. That shows, in practice, that they are wrong about atheists being bad people, which proves them wrong about religion being what makes them good people. A lot of “theories” of their religion breaks apart. That is what made me an atheist.

there’s no point in trying to say anything logical to a person who says they believe in god because science is hard.

If this proves anything, I already believed in evolution, big bang and science in general when I was around 13 years old, despite most Christians around me believing those theories were plain stupid and despite me being a devout Catholic.

But, of course, you are right about 99% of the times.

Are you having a period or are you a bitch 24/7?

yeah you’re still intentionally getting it wrong so you have an excuse to bitch. saying “HUDURRR SCIENCE IS HARD SO GOD DID IT” has NOTHING TO DO WITH CULTURE AT ALL. it’s making a stupid fucking choice, just like you being a gigantic racist is a stupid fucking choice. stupid choices have nothing to do with culture, you can be intelligent regardless of where you’re from.

i’m sorry your parents never loved you, and your plea for attention is cute, but i won’t be honoring it any further.

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