Empire State Building lights up for China.. WTF

I never said the army had to be discontinued. If anything it needs to be heightened, if such a feat like 9/11 and the Pentagon have been accomplished. Plus, I’d appreciate it if you stop being so butthurt, as no one else is being rude.

Wait, what? The government orchestrated 9/11 according to you, so therefore we should give them more power? And also, I agree that Mattemuse needs to stop being a dick and respond to opposing view points with arguments not insults.

No, not give more power to the government, but to the army. Hell, not even the army, just heighten security, because if “they” can get past all this protection the US has, we need moar.

They did heighten security, which is why it is a pain in the ass to travel in and out of the United States these days.

I don’t get why they are celebrating the 60th anniversary anyway… 50, sure, 100, sure, 500, yeah… But 60? Pft.

Wait…Is that post actually about the OP? Lame.

Anyway, I think the US is just trying to suck up to China to make them more of an ally. An American company (Microsoft) has already helped China in their Internet censoring crusade, so maybe the government itself is furthering the worship to get a powerful ally.

Look around most of your material possessions. How many of them have “MADE IN CHINA” on them? Just saying.

The only reason China isn’t our enemy is because we’re neck deep in debt. I doubt it’ll get any better anytime soon.

The american monetary system is based around someone being in debt at any given moment.

“Argument” implies two premises with equal probability. That is not at all the case here. When confronted with a ridiculous premise (“JEWS DID 9/11” “Terrist hate us for are freedum!!!1”), ridicule is the only rational approach. I won’t dignify viewpoints that are based on nonsense with any “argument” other than the fact that your viewpoints are based on nonsense.

Nobody said “JEWS DID 9/11. Terrist hate us for are freedum!!!1”

You said they attacked because they hated our freedom and wanted us to believe in Allah.

He attacked because we support Israel. He released a video in September that says this quite clearly and implores the US to change its ways.

That’s something I don’t understand.

After all these years of unsuccessful terrorism, why have terrorist organizations still not figured out that if they threaten a state government, they will get exactly the opposite reaction of what they demand them to do?

There was a video in Germany, prior to the recent government elections, and it was done by terrorists claiming to already have infiltrated Germany, and they were warning the upcoming government to better pull out our troops of Afghanistan, otherwise there would be some incidents.

Now our government has no choice anymore but to leave our troops there, just because they HAVE to defy terrorist demands always and at all costs. Otherwise they appear to become manipulatable (that the right word?). Maybe our new government was indeed planning a retreat, but now has to stop it or at least delay it until the terrorists inside our country are found. That means more German soldiers will be in deadly danger for a longer time.

The terrorists should know by now that reverse psychology is needed to influence governments. If they really wanted our troops to pull out, they should have threatened to attack civilian centers if our troops would not be reinforced and stocked up in the next three months. That’s how it actually could have worked.

Well, okay - maybe the video was indeed made or at least financed by high ranking military officers who wanted to have more troops in Afghanistan, who knows?

Well, don’t you have a penchant for conspiracy theories? :stuck_out_tongue:

Also, the term is “manipulable.”

Tommy J right back at ya

I’m not complaining.

Yes there would. An untrue rumour can be just as damaging as a dangerous truth. Don’t you think you’d be a little concerned if someone basically accused you of complicity with a terrorist attack? You don’t think that would throw you for six a little?

As for the rest, Occam’s razor is my guide.

Yes there is a reason to panic for someone like this guy. He probably didn’t know what to say and he didn’t want to be shown as a dumbass in front of the planet(he wasn’t a dumbass for not knowing what to say,but at that kind of moments you feel like a dumbass).

Actually I think by now it’s pretty clear Bush WAS a dumbass who never knew what to say unless he managed to remember the scripts prepared for him (which was very hit and miss).

How do 9/11 conspiracys have anything to do with what we are listening to?

Ok some manchild is really fucking up these forums and changing the thread titles, getting everyone confused :meh:

What thread are the pointless ones and which ones are the ones that are worthy??

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