Drugs & Alcohol

They are, read them. He implyed that weed has no side effect. Indeed the link is about Pcp, I was mainly using it as an example of what Drugs in General can do to you, Which is why I said “They” lol.

And if anyone did bother to read the sites he linked, most of them which where made BY weed smokers but one, which is hilarous because he said

" and it doesn’t damage your lungs."
But…uh… the site he used that as a “reference” says otherwise.

The irony, it hurts. You are obviously butthurt, and your websites are biased too.
@driving while stoned: Ever been in a car driven by stoned guy? Probably not. But I’ve been, with different drivers. And I can tell you that the fastest we’ve been was at about 40 kmph, and perfectly straight. Sure, it slows down your reflexes and movements, but rarely to a point where you are unable to turn a wheel. Power steering does wonders! Actually, I can’t remember hearing about someone who died in a car accident because of smoking weed. But, in other hand, I know 19 people who died from driving while drunk. 19, that isn’t nothing.

Problems with legalization? If it was legalized the government would only have more control over it. Right now there’s alot of illegal stuff going on the government knows nothing about, or can do nothing about.
There’s no danger with it being legalized.

Plus, alchohol is worse than weed. You can deny it all you want, but you know it’s true.
It’s more addictive, more dangerous, and far wider spread. It’s become normal.

Weed isn’t all that bad. Of course, it damages your lungs. Yes, it numbs the mind and slows your reflexes. But once again it’s about CONTROL. About DISCIPLINE.
Of course weed can cause damage if you overuse it, but the effects of someone who relativly drinks the same amount as someone who smokes weed will suffer more damage than the person who uses weed.

Yes. Yes you are.

In the Netherlands 9.7% of young adults (aged 15–24) consume soft drugs once a month, comparable to the level in Italy (10.9%) and Germany (9.9%) and less than in the UK (15.8%) and Spain (16.4%),[19] but higher than in, for example, Sweden (3%), Finland or Greece. Dutch rates of drug use are lower than U.S. rates in every category.

By taking away the rebellious status of pot and putting it into mainstream use in coffee shops, the Netherlands have put the profit in pot into the hands of legitimate businessmen. With this liberal policy in place, the Netherlands has the lowest rate of drug related deaths in the world.

Cannabis sativa is a wondrous thing.It contains carcinogens, yet it has not been found to increase the risk of lung cancer. It doesn’t kill brain cells. Instead it kills brain cancer cells..

I don’t smoke pot.

It’s true. It makes him see fractal-reality, a hellish realm of twisted, circular time-lines in which he is doomed to move in a loop for the rest of history, helpless to alter the course of his fate.

I don’t use pot very often either. I’m just an ideological firebrand with no patience for authoritarian apologists.

Did you bother to read the sites he posted? Yes, his sites were mostly made by weed smokers who are ultimately advocating weed’s legalization, but you’ll notice that each site he posted references literally dozens of legitimate scientific papers. Yours, on the other hand, reference nothing, instead opting to blandly state ‘facts’ without offering any supporting evidence.

I would like to offer you - in complete sincerity and goodwill, and also to all of you, and not just IsolatedPurity - a piece of advice. When you debate, you should try to convince other people that you’re right, and not that they’re wrong. It’s a very subtle difference, and most of the debaters I’ve seen on this forum have failed to grasp it.

Always easier to criticise basically.

https://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7008
Read the stuff in the above link. All of it. Every single article about it. Then think a bit longer, and then go on about your little ‘weed is bad’ rant. I’m sure you can’t say it face to face because after you’ve read it you’ll know every argument you had was bullshit. Because it motherf***ing cures (or at the very least lighten the effects by a large portion) some highly dangerous forms of cancer and stimulates the growth of braincells.

One right here.

Now, I ain’t smoking weed regularly, but I do it from time to time, and actually I like it a lot, I find myself having much more fun, more relaxed, no hangover, at lower cost.

Anyway, the way I see it, have you ever considered the part where cannabis is illegal might be the reason you haven’t met a person who isn’t an idiot, smoking weed?
I mean - often the people in your school, or w/e who do the illegal stuff is the bullies, because it’s cool to do something illegal.
Alcohol is legal, which leads us to the point where it’s something everyone does.
Pretty much everyone drinks from time to time, but they don’t smoke weed, look on it from a perspective. I’m sure there are as much idiots drinking til’ the end of doom, as there are idiots smoking.

I’m however not saying cannabis should be legalized, but if cannabis is illegal, why shouldn’t the alcohol be? Because the alcohol pretty much have worse effect on your body than the weed does.

You’ll find quite a lot of intelligent people in the Netherlands who like a joint from time to time, and are actually very clever, decent and peacefully friendly.

In Belgium too. It’s still not as accepted and certainly not as legal as in the Netherlands, but it’s certainly condoned to a much greater extent than most other places here. I think the majority of people in my generation have at least once done weed.

So how about E?

Whatever you put into your body should be your responsibility, no one else’s. If you fuck up and OD, that’s your fault. The Government being involved in controlling drugs like they do is just generating more crime, and making more dead bodies than drugs ever will. All drugs should be legal, but state regulated.

Watch out which type you take. Some of them are frickin’ dangerous for your brain.

Mind what he says, he obviously speaks from experience :awesome:

Again you show your age and failure to understand the world in context. Weed has been around for thousands of years and is no different to alcohol. They’re both drugs and they both alter your state of mind. It’s simply chance that one became more mainstream than the other and was seen as more acceptable. People have been smoking it for thousands of years and they’re not going to stop any time soon just because it’s illegal. What the government is doing at the moment is giving criminals power.

I would rather see both legalised. I know we’re talking about other drugs in general, but weed is something I’m familiar with. I’ve taken other drugs, but I haven’t seen enough or experienced enough to know their effects on society and therefore make an assumption as to whether they should be legal or not. In my experience, weed is very similar to alcohol in terms of how strongly it affects you.
They can both be relaxing and make you merry in a way, and they can also severely alter your state of mind if you take too much.
One of the problems, at least in the UK, is binge drinking and the violence and crime it causes. In my experience, people would just be too damn lazy to start fights and smash shop windows when they’ve had too much weed. Alcohol makes a lot of people aggressive whereas in the majority of cases weed just tends to make you happy.
Perhaps I’m just being naive and only speaking from my experiences, but I would rather have a country gripped by weed than gripped by alcoholism. Plus I’ve had one of the best experiences of my life when I had too much weed, whereas if I have too much alcohol I just feel ill.

hurr durr :stuck_out_tongue:

Well I’m 30 years “old” and powered by green energy only. :ninja: I’m drinkless (sure I’m not total anti-alcoholic) but kill me, I’m not beer fella either. Two and half of them and I’m starting to be like a fish :fffuuu: Two of triple Jim Beams at certain celebration situations, well it’s another story. Let’s say I am not trained well. Beside that I tried only light stuffs like a trip to the moon in banana:

…or happy-jumpy night in drum’n’bass club with my best friends:

but that can be counted by fingers on one hand and on second hand broken. No other shits interested. Two little experiences with mushrooms counted?
To the point:
Weed is excellent, if served well. I like it (beside outdoor picnic days with friends) trough listening / creating music and playing games. Stoned… I can regard highly every peace of aligned texture, every detail and every corner… Don’t talking about way better lap-times with driving simulators :stuck_out_tongue: But of course it’s not working with daily mish-mashed brain. Every 14-20 days mind can clean well - then experience is way way better. When productivity and concentration is needed, month or two off is not a problem. (It’s how it works if used with precaution) Finally I think better rastaman than broken alcoholic. I can see some extremes - “stoned every day” guys -> well lazy assess. Alcoholics with broken families or even died like our neighbor…that’s something else.:[
Well now I’m high on green wave (outside freezing-it’s my DeusEx1 weekend) + my signature … I hope result will not laugh out someones stomach, because when I hear strangers talk Czech it’s funny. :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s what I had on my mind too.
In our country it’s not too bad, but I know what you mean. In your county I’d rather choose roof walking after football matches ;o)

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