Colorado theatre shooting at Dark Knight Premiere

I am not against guns, nor do I fear them, nor do I want to have them taken away, but you’re not entirely correct here.

The right to keep and bear arms is for the security of the free state (including protection of self, family, and property) and to protect it (the country) from all enemies, foreign and domestic. The militia, which is what the 2nd Amendment is talking about, can be called up, by the government, to suppress insurrections (people that go against our government).

Our government is kept in check already by We the People. We can oust anyone with delusions of totalitarianism, authoritarianism, or despotism with a simple pull of the lever. If they try to overstay their welcome (such as remaining within the houses of Congress or in the White House), they lose all that power as soon as the new people come in. The new President has the authority to have the previous President escorted out and possibly charged with trespassing. Same, too, with the Congress. That’s how our government is set up. The right to keep and bear arms may have used to be to protect against a tyrannical government but that was before we had a Constitution to limit the power of government.

In this case, the pen really is mightier than the sword.

Now, back to the arguing. :slight_smile:

I tried to respond to this last night, but my ISP seems to shut down after midnight (lazy assholes).
Anyway, what you are essentially suggesting would only cause an escalation.
So lets assume that everyone carries a handgun. Any maniac would then have to upgrade to a semi-automatic.
Then people like you would cry out, “We need to be allowed to carry semi-automatic weapons into cinemas! Then we could defend ourselves!”

Then the maniacs would end up bringing fully automatic weapons.

The next thing you know, everyone is wearing clown masks and carrying thermonuclear weapons under their jackets!

The “assholes in high seats” are simply trying to prevent an escalation of this kind. Ok, so I got a bit carried away with the nuclear weapons, but the rest is pretty true.

You can’t simply put the whole population, owning a gun, into that category. If it really comes to a crossfire, the probabilty of innocents getting hurt shouldn’t be really low.

Accidents can’t be avoided sometimes or in particular situations.

How so? What makes it so unlikely that someone could steal a gun and/or ammunition?

Aha, and what do you wanna tell us with that now? You’re gonna start the next shootout, or what?
That shit is exactly what I was talking about. Why do you need such a bunch of military und hunting rifles to protect yourself? As if one handgun wouldn’t be enough…

Jefferson would be proud.

because shooting with weapons is nice, maybe?
come on, don’t behave like a baby here, everyone loves dark humour… except you.

Anyways Dr. Karamazov, you must have met some real dumb germans.

I do live in Berlin. I guess you can’t really class Berlin as Germany; it’s an entity of it’s own.
My gf is from Koln and everyone there seems pretty nice and intelligent, so perhaps the poverty and shittiness of Berlin rots people’s brains.

Anyway…BACK TO THE SHOOTING!!!

PEW PEW

I like to collect guns.

It’s a hobby over here in the states.

The availability of urban tanks and thermonuclear devices in the United States makes it way too easy for any person to hold entire cities hostage and something needs to be done about it.

Yes, I agree. (Esp the domestic part)

…but also…

When a president decides that nobody could stop him because he has the military behind him (and the citizens, including senators, congress etc. are helpless) he just declares martial law for the time-being and then begins planning out our new government…

Well then, no chance to vote.

I like dark humour, like in movies. But not really if it’s about someone getting murdered in real life, that’s all…

Yea fine, but then don’t act it out like “be afraid”…

aliensoldier, a word of advice. Every single post on these forums is to be considered a joke unless explicitly stated otherwise.[COLOR=‘Black’] In that case, it’s an inside joke.

I’m sorry, I didn’t put it into other peoples perspectives. So in a way it is a National Tragedy, because it’s Tragically affected the Nation. You called my shit.

Good to know. So what you just told me, is a joke? :stuck_out_tongue:

yes, and this post is not a joke

:hmph:
then you don’t really like dark humour as I stated before…

Yep, and if space aliens attack, we won’t have Will Smith to punch them in the face to welcome them to Earth or Jeff Goldblum to upload a virus from his Mac to the alien mothership.

Singularly stupidest GUI ever contrived.

rofl I can’t stop laughing at that pic.

He is what most refer to as “juvenile”

Maybe they’ll stop with the comicbook/superhero movies now.

Thank you, James Holmes. Thank you.

Founded in 2004, Leakfree.org became one of the first online communities dedicated to Valve’s Source engine development. It is more famously known for the formation of Black Mesa: Source under the 'Leakfree Modification Team' handle in September 2004.