Collapse of the United States Government

Uh no. It’s not just the war, its not just Bush, its not the Republican party, its not the Democratic party. Both parties have screwed up, Bush was apart of the problem as well but like I said in my previous post the only way to fix this is cut the spending, cut the taxes and promote innovation.

In b4 it’s because we’re gonna run out of natural resources.

Which is why I am so surprised a democrat was voted in. By nature, a democrat is more taxes and government programs. Bah, regardless… I wouldnt want the job of pres. It is underpaid, under respected and under powered.

Would you rather have a rich dictator?
Also, $400,000 sounds like a shit load of money if you ask me. And all I have to do is kiss babies, make false promises, and piss my entire country into a recession? Sign me up!

People who are serious about reducing deficits would never recommend cutting taxes and thereby decreasing government revenue which offsets the spending that’s already happened. The Jr. Bush tax cuts for the richest .5% COST America $3 Trillion.

The “cut spending, cut taxes (for the rich)” meme is classic Reaganism - the hypocrisy is not surprising at all considering Reagan increased the US deficit and size of government to unmatched (until Bush JR) proportions while simultaneously preaching sweet nothings into red-blooded Libertarian ears.

LOL

war is big business… and business is good. spend spend!

This thread is now going to go into true debate mode, so I bid you all a fairwell. Remember to play nice and report attacking posts.

Huggles!

War is big business. War, however, is not a profitable business because the money invested is ultimately destroyed. It provides little to no return on capital.

A million dollars spent on war is a million dollars gone. A million dollars spent on infrastructure is two million or more returned from that investment from a higher quality of life.

Those that say “Cut taxes, cut spending” as if that was the end-all, be-all forget one thing:

Cutting taxes is spending.

If you want to cut spending without raising revenue in the form of taxes, I’m forced to ask, “Cut what?” “Cutting spending” sounds nice on a bumper sticker. When you get down to it, however, what do you cut? And what consequences arise from those cuts?

War has changed…

If I lived in America you would have my vote.

that’s what I was thinking

War? War never changes.

Here in the Netherlands we don’t have to wait: It finally happen’d! The son of a bitch that was supposed to be our president is no more!..unless he gets voted on again this May…which is likely to happen due to him being elected mulitple times despite the fact he managed to fuck up a government in one day.

Nope.

You guys need to suck it up and pay taxes out the ass until you are done paying off your debt. The US will never recover if you don’t.

If you want to complain about it, than stop using all public services. Hell, stop using the roads.

Your government (That you as a people elected, remember) have simply been spending way way way more money than they make. The US attempts to maintain a standard of living that is simply retarded and at the same time spend a stupid amount of money on their military.

Solution (that will never happen because the citizens of the USA are too greedy and prideful of thier military to ever go there) : Sharply raise taxes and cut military funding/spending.

That will never happen, and thus the US will fall (slowly or quickly depending on what specifically happens) and every smart person should get the fuck out and leave the hillbillies to bask in their shitpile of growing poverty, dreams of world domination and vapid greed.

Because that right winged retard of a Wilders is way better?

I do have fictional fantasies of American Doomsday events, such as when we run out of oil. We are so dependent on it, I am sure the entire country would crumble.

To be fair, if the US falls, it’ll be due to civil war.

The United States of America are slowly turning into the States of America.

I don’t disagree that the US should reduce the deficit through progressive taxation and cuts in military spending, but how exactly did sovereign debt contribute to the current situation?

Something about it costing more than a dollar to produce a dollar. Not sure exactly how that works or where I heard it, but I’m sure someone else on here does.

That’s gibberish. I hope Havelok has a better answer, he’s smart enough to act condescending towards Americans so I’m sure he’s also smart enough to explain the premise of his economic argument.

Ya know, acting condescending towards Americans is an indication of ability to jump on a bandwagon. Nothing more. He really has no basis for anything he’s said.

It’s not just gibberish. I read something in a reliable magazine, I think. I’m probably explaining it poorly because I don’t remember it too well though.
Banks are involved somehow, too. Damn I should learn to shut up when I don’t remember stuff too well.

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