Black Mesa 2009 Update

[Azrael]

@sersoft

I only spent about 30 minutes in the US, it was nothing special.

Could any other country have brought the deep fried twinkie into the world? I should say no.

[budbuddy]

@Shasta

Rofl - you think there is no such thing as stupidity. Ask your parents if they’ll take off your chains and lift up that rock they have you living under. You’re trying to imply that people are just ignorant and need to learn. WRONG. There are plenty of people out there too stupid to learn. Also you say you should pity them - pity is for those that believe they are better than the ones they pity. Trust me, after reading a few of your posts, you aren’t in a position to pity anyone. Worry about yourself, kid.

I find it a little arrogant the way you put yourself above criticism, shasta, but then again I do not need to try to explain my thinking to you, as you would surely find a rebuttal, however senseless, without taking some distance to analyse what you have read. Now I only wonder why you insist on trying to make me believe I should despise all things ignorant and try to lower them into mud as I look down from the marble pillar I’ve constructed in my mind to put myself above all things I disrespect. Don’t you think even if I was wrong, I would do more good with my thinking than your own?

[CatzEyes93]

Get a room you two. No one cares about your posturing.

[Crikulus]

@Azrael

Could any other country have brought the deep fried twinkie into the world? I should say no.

@Wikipedia

According to the Hostess website, Christopher Sell, from Rugby, England, invented the “fried Twinkie” in 2002 at the ChipShop, his restaurant in Brooklyn, New York.

@Wikipedia

Christopher Sell, from Rugby, England

@Wikipedia

from Rugby, England

@Wikipedia

England

sorry, yes.

[Brother_Shrike]

@Crikulus

sorry, yes.

@Wikipedia

According to the Hostess website, Christopher Sell, from Rugby, England, invented the “fried Twinkie” in 2002 at the ChipShop, his restaurant in Brooklyn, New York.

@Wikipedia

Brooklyn, New York.

@Wikipedia

New York

:hmph:

[sersoft]

Everybody who lives in the US immigrated there, some people just did it before they were born.

[Shasta]

@MysticJ

Pardon me for putting analogy in your mouth, but…

Say there are people who don’t know how to drive a car, but they are driving a car in the traffic. What do you do? Your suggestion is to ignore them[/SIZE] (“Don’t give them any attention so as not to feed them”) and definitely not to try to teach them anything (“it’s wrong to imply that people are just ignorant and need to learn”).

Well, congratulations, your approach would surely lead to a wonderful world. Except for the fact that with your approach, dr. Lister would never teach other doctors that they should not touch women in labour with unwashed hands after working on corpses in the morgue, and so mortality during labour would still be so high none of us would probably be here.

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If someone is doing something really wrong, then you RESTRAIN them from doing it, PUNISH them for doing it, or EDUCATE them on how to do it correctly. In ideal world, you would then also OBSERVE if they manage to do it right the next time (where applicable), and if they do it wrong agian, then you intensify or alternate in your response.

Ignorance is a response that is not recommended in cases of longterm interaction between subjects (such as in a family (parent ignoring a child) or in workspace (employee ignoring a colleague)), exactly because it generates attention whores.

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Anyway, could this thread be closed, because it obviously no longer serves its purpose?

Rofl. Learn to read, dumbass. My entire position on this IS to mock, punish and teach stupid people to attempt to correct their stupidity, and NOT to just ignore it. You should be aiming your ramblings at budbuddy. Read BEFORE you rant dummy:

@Shasta

WRONG. If you ignore stupidity, it becomes accepted and grows until you’re surrounded by fucking morons. If you put them in their place and show them the error of their ways, there’s a chance they might learn something from it. Either they learn (if they’re smart enough to understand), or learn to shut up (if they’re dumb as dirt). Either way society has a chance of winning. Ignoring problems and other peoples stupidity does not solve anything - often it causes even more problems. Perhaps after you hit puberty and get a little life experience you might start to learn that.

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@budbuddy

I find it a little arrogant the way you put yourself above criticism, shasta, but then again I do not need to try to explain my thinking to you, as you would surely find a rebuttal, however senseless, without taking some distance to analyse what you have read. Now I only wonder why you insist on trying to make me believe I should despise all things ignorant and try to lower them into mud as I look down from the marble pillar I’ve constructed in my mind to put myself above all things I disrespect. Don’t you think even if I was wrong, I would do more good with my thinking than your own?

Dude, you’re part of the problem. You shouldn’t despise the dummies because you’re one of them.

[sersoft]

You should learn that, everyone is part of the problem. That is, unless you know absolutely everything and never get mixed up.

[CatzEyes93]

my last night of freedom and I may need to flick someone.

Now. TOPIC PLEASE OR GTFO!

[budbuddy]

Well… what topic? ^^ this shouldn’t have been an open thread, it was just an announcement, it’s not like the OP asked us to comment, or produce something. Now the only thing relevant to do is discuss how it’s not going to be released in 2009, and I’m pretty sure everyone got over that before 2010 started.

[DarkDragon]

sooo lets see, if devs thought that BM will be out at the end of 2009 but they did not quite make it… i think it will be released Q1 2010 as they are just beta testing, fixing bugs and some few things that are remaining to do ofc.

PS we should use this to calculate release data for BM! :0

[sersoft]

Beta testing can take a long time, who knows how many game breaking bugs the testers will find.

I find bugs in released games all the time.

[SparcMan]

@DarkDragon

sooo lets see, if devs thought that BM will be out at the end of 2009 but they did not quite make it… i think it will be released Q1 2010 as they are just beta testing, fixing bugs and some few things that are remaining to do ofc.

PS we should use this to calculate release data for BM! :0

The correct equation is

RD = S + d * (h / (1 - c) - T) Where: RD = Release date S = start date h = average developer free time hours per week d = number of developers actively working on Black Mesa c = caffeine deficiency quotient T = hours of Team Fortress 2 time

[sersoft]

You mean available to the public 2 weeks before retail?

[Lord_Grievous]

As long as it isn’t Duke Nukem Forever time :meh:

[Westmania]

So, is the game finished yet?

[DeadlyFox]

@Westmania

So, is the game finished yet?

Yes, it was released in 2009, that’s the topic. Haven’t you played yet?

/sarcasm

I wouldn’t expect that they’ve finished it completely, but saying that there could even be just tweaks and smaller details, testing etc left and it’s on the horizon.

[cs_kimmo]

I really don’t wanna wait another year in vain (well I actually didn’t wait whole last year, I heard about the mod in summer or so ^_^). But I really hope you guys can get the mod out this year asap

[DeadlyFox]

Well by the looks of it however long it’s going to be the wait isn’t going to be in vain, it’ll be worth it when it comes out.

[BenGaut]

@DeadlyFox

Well by the looks of it however long it’s going to be the wait isn’t going to be in vain, it’ll be worth it when it comes out.

Agreed. I’ve been following this mod since 2006 (despite the “cockroach” rating), and the entire time it has been a slow and steady buildup of released material. I have absolutely no doubt that, when it does come out, it will be fantastic.