BioShock Infinite

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#161

I just finished my play through, and I realized something. Well, I realized a lot of things - there’s a ton of foreshadowing and hinting, as well as some neat things like the wood panels on comstock’s airship - but this in particular stuck out to me:

([color=’#171717’]The muffled cries that Booker makes when he’s drowning at the end, those muffled complaints, are almost exactly the same as the sounds Jack makes when he’s struggling to the surface after the plane crash - at the very beginning of Bioshock one.)

#162

That is fucking awesome.

[[color=’#181818’]Also, am I the only one who noticed how you could hear Anna crying in Booker’s apartment the first time you went there, when you saw New York on fire after your baptism at the start of the game?]

#163

Reviving this thread to say that Irrational said they would unveil the first story DLC in the end of july, and that’s now. Ken Levine also said he would do some “important tweets” tomorrow. CUE THE RUMOURS EVERYONE!

#164

You play as Songbird.

#165

You play as the musical statues that are used to call Songbird.

Essentially you just stand there until Booker comes around, you press a button which alerts the Songbird, then the screen fades to black, and the game ends.

#166

Ken Levine is like the M. Night Shyamalan of video games. You forgot the plot twist.

The screen fades to white.

#167

But Levine is actually talented.

#168

The first DLC has now been unveiled and will release today!
https://www.pcgamer.com/2013/07/30/bioshock-infinite-dlc/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

An arena styled combat experience with no narrative at all.

The next DLC “Burial At Sea Episode One” will take place in rapture.

#169

So 2 story DLCs and 1 arena style…I am OK with that.The story one sound really interesting cause I always wanted to visit Rapture before it’s fall.

#170

I’ll try out the new DLC that’s out today, but I’m more excited that I’ll be in Rapture again in the other 2 DLCs!

#171

Oh fuck yes. I have always wanted to explore a Rapture that hasn’t gone to shit.

#172

I just hope it’ll add to Infinite’s story rather than being a standalone story. Clash in the Clouds is also loads of fun.

#173

I’m pretty sure it will be a standalone story judging by the trailer. You’re still Booker Dewitt, but in another plane/dimension (whatever you want to call it). One where Rapture was build instead of Columbia and where Elisabeth lives there. It do sound as if the reason for him being there is the same or similiar as in the current story.

I base this conclusion by the line “The girl promised me a way out, and I was desperate enough to believe her.”

But sure, it can be some tie ins with the the infinite story. Seeing how her pinky is cut off even here.

#174

Yes, I’m late to the party, but I just finished this game.

OH MY GOD THAT ENDING WAS A HEADFUCK.

And a bit of fridge logic is setting in. Why would our DeWitt’s death resolve the stable time loop? Yes, he’s Comstock and DeWitt at the same time, but the Lutese twins are the ones who managed to open links between the parallel universes in the first place. If they somehow were prevented from contacting each other and opening the parallel universes in the first place, then the other plot elements like the divergence of DeWitt and Comstock wouldn’t be physically possible. Also, what would drowning our DeWitt do? There’s still millions of DeWitts out there, and one of them has his baby back. So, did I just break the ending? And do I win a prize for thinking that out?

Also:

F Zero GX was a collaboration between Sega’s Amusement Vision dev house and Nintendo.

Just putting that out there.

#175

Let me try to explain it in the way I believe it works.
When Elizabeth drowns Booker a paradox happens. Without Booker to become Comstock, Elizabeth would never be there and therefore not be able to drown him, which she just did. The multiverse reacts to this by removing every single universe that has the slightest to do with that paradox, which is basically every single universe where Booker accepts the baptism and becomes Comstock. His rejection becomes a constant because of that paradox.

Or atleast, that’s how I believe it happened.

EDIT: I also found this on Twitter;

#176

Edit: Tab up because the background gradient messed with my de-spoilering.

I think that what happened is, essentially, [[color=’#191919’]Elizabeth gained unlimited power in about half of the existing parallel universes where she actually existed at all, assuming that Comstock never had a child in his universes. She just used that power to, through Booker, alter the timeline so that Comstock never existed in any of his universes, giving a happy ending to Booker in his universes.]

Here’s a timeline I found on reddit that might explain it better.

#177

dat dlc trailer

#178

Clash in the Clouds is also loads of fun, and there is some extra lore voxophones hidden in the museum if you buy the two Lutece statues.

#179

Nice explanations! Even so, wouldn’t removing one of the Lutese twins from the timeline have split the timeline completely in two, preventing Comstock/DeWitt from ever meeting? I actually liked the ending as-is, I’m just trying to figure out a plausible scenario where Booker didn’t have to be drowned at the baptism.

#180

Yeah. [Removing Rosalind Lutece would leave Comstock without a scientist to create Columbia and the tear machine. Robert is also needed, it was he who forced Rosalind to help him in restoring Booker’s life by bringing him to Comstock’s universe.]

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