the state of shut up and stop asking pointless questions bumping a thread that should have died before the first page was filled…
Oh, the irony.
The one reference to Blue Shift in HL2 is the Xen relay “Calhoun” activated. (Mossman mentions it when you’re walking towards the elevator)
No reference to Blue Shift here, I’m afraid. Barney did set up a relay on Xen, but I don’t think he “compressed” it. Kleiner evidently did that later.
She said they got the teleporters working better than what they could have imagined doing at Black Mesa. The relay she mentions doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with the relay from Blue Shift, just that they chose to use the word ‘relay’ agian.
Barney should be added in places other than the beginning. I just can’t see a reason why not. I mean in HL2 he clearly is shown as a man of action, he wouldn’t have sat out the BM incident that’s for sure! Some random interactions ingame would make it more interesting (and perhaps some co-op work dunno). I agree however with the creator of this thread that the makers of the game have already thought about that, if not 100% then 99% sure
Barney had his own game which states that he never encountered Gordon on the day of the BMI.
Yea having Gordon and Barney meet other than on the Inbound tram in BM would not go with the canon HL Universe. Gearbox created Blue Shift and OP4 within “canon” limits.
I love the smell of necroposting in the mornin’.
The BMRF is (was?) a big place. It’s highly unlikely that Barney would appear in the same place as Gordon at the same time. To keep official Valve canon, Barney is the one that can’t get in the security door in Inbound, and that’s the last you’ll see of him until you are stopped from getting on the train to Nova Prospekt.
he could have known about it if he heard about it from other people. when gordon got back in half life 2 he was pretty much a celebrity
Here’s what happened (my completely uninformed invention):
Gordon has the crowbar. Gordon goes to Xen. Does his business there. Is pulled away from the exploding Nihilanth. Back in Black Mesa, the portal to Xen is collapsing. As Gordon is abducted by the G-man, the crowbar teleports back into the Lambda Core teleportation chamber; the rest of the weapons taken by the G-man.
A scientist grabs the crowbar and gets the heck out of Dodge. Later, possibly in City 17, the scientist meets Barney (who knew that he and Gordon were friends), and tells him that the crowbar was the only thing that came back. Barney held onto it as a memento of their friendship…until sometime later, Barney sees Gordon getting ready to board the train to Nova Prospekt and…well, you know where it goes from there.
That story go hard mang.
I always thought the crowbar was like the HEV suit; G-man gave it to Eli, (the only contact I’m aware of that would be able to play this role) who gave the suit to Kleiner, and the crowbar to Barney. This ensured that Gordon would not only be protected and armed with what he knew how to use, but he would also be recognizable to the resistance.
To me, in HL1, Barney was the security guard that I kept running into throughout the game. I recognised his face and voice, so it had to be the same person. I didn’t really care that it’s impossible since I once saw him die and he was in locations that he simply could not have gotten to before me. But anyway, I would never have thought that you actually only see Barney for a second in the beginning of the game.
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Thanks, nietzschesaurus!
Nah, that was an awesome 1st post
I thought it was strange in Blue Shift, when you only saw Gordon once. I had played Azure Sheep before, where you meet both Gordon and Adrian Shephard. Damn that was a great mod!
First post btw! I have been following Black Mesa since the beginning, but only a year since I started lurking the forums.