oh right, forgot about my avatar
those are pencils, i am a pencil case
My brother’s been in a relationship for nearly 6 years and hasn’t proposed. Mainly because he’s a PhD student and has no money. It’s all personal circumstance, but you’ll know when you find someone you really click with 
. It’s just a huge expense
Like, 5 minutes.
Actually, I’d suggest you wait longer. Most of the marriage disaster stories I’ve heard of seem to have started with a marriage beginning after like, 1 year of seeing each other. Like you already experienced, 1 year doesn’t really give you enough time or information to really make that decision reliably. I’d say give it a few years at least. [color=black]Also stick it in her pooper.
You have to wait until she cheats on you, so you can forgive her and propose to her so she says yes out of pity, but breaks up the day after.
Low.
Bolteh has said that many times before. It’s not like his coldness is anything new, anyway. Just the way I like it. :jizz:
I know, but shadow wasn’t even involved in this.
I was going out with my girlfriend (now wife) for four years before we got married. For 3 and a bit of those we were living together. I’d say that it’s not just enough to be going out for a decent length of time; you need to be able to commit enough to share resources, body odour, morning breath and all that “married” stuff.
Actually, on reflection, it’s probably more that you need to be able to:
- commit to sharing resources, body odour, morning breath and
- (more importantly) be able to gently tell her that x habit of hers annoys you.
- (even more importantly) be able to handle her not so apparently gently telling you that x, y and z habits of yours annoy her (and be man enough to take it on the chin).
- (most importantly of all) be able to resolve the above minor quibbles without major atmospheres & soundtracks. (If you can do that, you’re likely to be better at surviving proper arguments about stuff that actually matters!)
[COLOR=‘Black’] either that or you just don’t need to be listening to Brian Eno while arguing…
Like the man in the science-wheelchair once said, “All we need to do is keep talking”; probably around 80% of marital strife can be either avoided or resolved by careful, honest discussion and open ears. At risk of sounding obscenely “smug-married”, that’s always worked for me.
It doesn’t have to be a huge expense…
Sure, if you’re wanting to get your friends along, feed them, provide drinks (even just the wine for the meal) provide some entertainment and host it somewhere other than your mum’s sitting room, there’s significant potential for a wedding day to cost a big arse-whack of money… You don’t have to take all the rubbish in those wedding magazines as a recommended shopping list though!
When I got married, the average outlay for a wedding (all stuff included) was about £16,000 in England… We naturally figured that spending enough to buy a brand new hatchback on a single day (very special, granted, but still) was madness. I think we managed to knock close to £10K off that figure - by looking for good deals, haggling a bit, doing some stuff ourselves, getting a couple of decent photographer friends to get snap happy (that alone saved £1,500 on a photographer… seriously!).
Friends and family are usually remarkably forthcoming with help & skills (you can save a further £1,500-£5,000 if friends/family are handy with a sewing machine - bridal gowns are eye-bleedingly expensive if you don’t want to hire/buy a pikey meringue from your local kwik-e-mart).
Oh, and (if it’s humanly possible) don’t tell any hire venue/supplier that it’s a wedding they’re bidding for until after they’ve given you a price in writing and can’t wriggle out of it… It seemed to me that the word “Wedding” carries a 10x multiplier hidden in micro-print in the dot of the “i”!
First, best post ever, you win the Internet 
Second, I honestly missed the Brian Eno line until I quoted you.
Third, I agree (from experience) with the careful, honest discussion and open ears. Talk to each other, and more importantly, LISTEN to each other. Have been with my girlfriend for 4 years (half living together) and while we’ve discussed the concept of marriage, we both know we’re not going to do it right now. I generally hate clichés but here’s one for you - Live, Laugh, Love, Listen. Oh, and unless it’s your thing, don’t try partner-hunting in a pub - folks that go there habitually are usually there for a reason (and that’s a reason for you to NOT be there )
I’m there habitually and I can say there’s much truth in this 
I’m sure it really isn’t the best post ever… for sure it’s got proper sentence structure, humour and even attempts to impart useful information, but “best post”?… :fffuuu: Someone from Guinness had better be ratifying all this!!
Well, I must admit, “best post ever” does carry quite a significant meaning. But as you mentioned, it was a clever crafting of useful knowledge, humor, and, no offense of course, but I found great amusement in the British slang . And I highly doubt Guinness will ever glance at these forums.
Until the release date, of course, when BM: S becomes the most downloaded mod ever. Or at least the one to crash the most download mirrors
i just found out what defines grown ups in the internetz
they think it’s srs bsns
No such thing as BM: S
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
No seriously. I’ve been trying to figure this out for years.
Buckets.
None. As woodchucks don’t chuck wood.
Mister Adult Manchild, why do people listen to idiotic bands these days?
It is a well known fact that any song which isn’t the Safety Dance is rubbish and can cause cancer
because either audiences, musicians or producers (or a combination of the three) lack the imagination or will to listen to or create something that is actually new, challenging and that might invigorate the pop industry. What you’re seeing is pop eating itself. Get the popcorn in, this could be fun.
[edit]how many times did I manage to get “pop” in there?!