“Look at how gay I am.”
“We don’t believe you!”
“Here, take a look at these polaroids.”
“My goodness, weren’t we ever mistaken.”
Great way to come out! :what: Don’t even say anything, just pass along some Polaroids and walk out.
Later on, parents walk in
“Hey, son, ummm these pictures are uh interesting, while I quite like the lighting and appropriate depth of field, I couldn’t help but notice there is another guy having sex with you. Is there anything you want to tell us?”
“No, no, no, I think the pictures speak for themselves. Whats for dinner?”
Will you marry? That could be his ticket out of Wisconsin 
I’d volunteer to tape the whole thing.
In case you didn’t get the Wisconsin joke, watch “Dogma”:
uh oh… Soup’s got some competition! :retard:
Oh snap.
Here’s my question (particularly to those who live in the UK): we managed to pass a pretty considerable milestone in perfecting the human condition with gay marriages being made legal, but in the UK they’re called ‘Civil Partnerships’, a term I’ve always viewed as being extremely patronising. Does it matter what it’s called, are you happy that the institution of marriage is being made open to all, or should more steps be taken to ultimately destroy the lines between marriage and civil partnerships?
Sorry, bit of a mouthful there.
Hm. That’s a good point Sas. Personally, I’ve never viewed ‘Marriage’ as religious. Certain ceremonies, yes, but not the word. The word ‘Marriage’ to me (between couples) simply means a loving declaration of spending your life together. So, with that in mind, I found ‘Civil Partnership’ to sound more like a business proposition than the ’ loving declaration of spending your life together’ I see the word ‘Marriage’ to represent.
No, I wasn’t. I got drunk on the 31st of December 08, stayed awake half the night, and when they all sort of sat down on the morning of New Years I told them. My one brother already knew, my other brother wasn’t upset about it; he was upset I didn’t tell him sooner. I have no idea what my father thinks because he didn’t say anything. My mother cried all through it. She’s still not comfortable with it.
I’d think the general idea is that gay couples get the same civic benefits as straight couples do. It doesn’t matter what the government calls it because nobody can stop you from saying “we’re married.”
I view the word/phrase “Civil Partnership” or “Civil Union” as they are called in the US as an excuse and final grasp to try keeping the word “Marriage” religious. While I can see why they try and protect their own marriage or rite to as being sacred in their own mind, it also comes back to their understanding of homosexuality as unnatural in the eyes of a God. If they really thought it was unnatural or a sin but as acceptable practice, would they not have a problem with calling it a marriage? It all just comes back to bigotry.
But in the same light, a straight couple can be married through a non-religious ceremony even in a courthouse. Honestly, if I was to marry any future boyfriend (even though I live in a state that would be one of the last to recognize the right) I wouldn’t go around saying “Oh we’re getting a Civil Union”. No I would call it a marriage. But as long as rights and legal benefits are kept the same I guess I wouldn’t have much of a problem.
I really think in my lifetime, most of the civil world will have just started calling them marriages even if church organizations refuse to acknowledge or perform the ceremony.
In Canada same-sex marriages are recognized and are referred to as a marriage.
But in the US, it’s wishy washy, some states have civil unions, others have full on same-sex marriage, like 5?.
And I guess I could also give a basic Mormon view on marriage.
A Marriage to them, which if you are deemed worthy (not hard, just need recommendation from your local church Bishop, any young man who plans on going on a 2 year mission walks through a Temple beforehand) you get access to a Temple for marriage. Once married in the Temple, your souls are eternally bound and your soul can only be bound to one person/soul (so much for polygamy amirite?) The only way to access the top tier Celestial Kingdom (of 3) in heaven and spend eternity with God and his son, you must be sealed in the Temple. I was taught to believe that if one’s soul mate was never found in mortal life, it was guaranteed that one would meet theirs in a pre-heaven bliss like place. So “marriage” to the Mormon faith is very serious, even a divorce if married in the temple is only determined by God.
It’s been a while since I learned this, but that’s the jist of it.
I guess that pretty much answers my question. Cheers.
Personally, I think that marriage can be BOTH a religious ceremony AND a legal contract at the same time. To me, I believe that you can have all the religious marriages you want to anyone you want, anyTHING you want, any time you want, to as many different people/things you want at the same time…
But these would be strictly religious ceremonies without any force of law. If you want that, then you get a legal marriage…which is restricted to consent and the equality of the persons getting the legal marriage. Two persons get married. Three or more cannot due to the problems with custody of things and people. Minors cannot marry those of the majority due to lack of consent. Non-human animals cannot marry humans due to lack of consent. Seems pretty simple, if you ask me.
But my big question here is, at least in the United States: Why are religious people okay with the government telling churches what they can and can’t do? If there was a church that wanted to perform a marriage to homosexuals, the government in those many states don’t allow it. Why are religious people okay with this?
For more marriage shenanigans, see this thread:
https://forums.blackmesasource.com/showthread.php?t=3099
If only that were a problem for girls I knew in real life…
Does being hit on by a girl make you as uncomfortable as it is for a straight guy being hit on by a gay guy?
I don’t mind either, so I guess it would be a better question for Waffle to answer.
HOWEVER, I did have a girl lightly flirting with me at a party my freshman year, she was belligerently drunk and hitting on just about everyone anyway. Regardless I was going along with it for amusement. I was either 18 or had just turned 19, just a few years ago and at the time I had my first boyfriend who was also in the room on my other side getting a good kick out of this girls antics. She got up for whatever reason and I thought I had bored her enough and she would move on to the next guy. So my boyfriend and I were alone, so I popped over and onto his lap and just as we started kissing, she walks back in with a friend, stops dead in her tracks and says something like “I have just spent 15 minutes hitting on a gay guy next to his boyfriend, I need to stop drinking” before walking out. And her friend acted like she had never seen a gay couple before and stuck around to ask those drunk, but I’m interested questions.
So lesson learned for her? If you hit on every guy at a party, chances are you are going to hit on the gay/bi one. :3
Now that I think about it, it was really the first bad reaction I have had when someone finds out I like the guy.
That’s been the only situation that’s been even slightly awkward, more for her , but you get the idea.
I know a lot of straight guys who really aren’t uncomfortable with it; it’s a matter of just being comfortable with your sexuality. That being said, it’s a bit odd. It’s not that I really don’t like it, I find it kind of funny, but at the same time it’s a giant tease because 90% of the time I’m surrounded by straight couples, and it’s like God is just laughing his ass off as he sends women to go hit on me.
But that’s more my own personal, weird, convoluted feelings on the matter. As far as them just hitting on me concerned, I’m cool with it.
Yep. And love entered marriage no sooner than in the 19th century, where it became quickly apparent that it originally didn’t belong there.
If you had a choice, would you do it to a Vagina? seeing as they are technically both holes. also, why do you like bums more? do you not mind that “Shit” comes out from there…
I have a choice. I happen to want to fuck guys because I’m attracted to guys, not women.
I have a choice. I happen to want fuck women and be fucked by guys because I’m attracted to guys, and women.
SeewhatIdidthereformyownpost?
We’ve covered it before, but I’m not worried that “shit comes from there” because for one, I keep good hygiene and expect any partner to do the same,
I wouldn’t say I prefer bums, but I prefer giving a BJ to a guy than eating out a girl. I prefer fucking a girl more than fucking a guy, I prefer being fucked by a guy than being fucked by a …oh wait.
Men are just better at sex.