Stephen Fry is Gay but doesn’t have sex so that point is invalid.
Pretty much yes, tbh a baby is not its own living thing until its brain is active and heart is pumping, before that it is just cells mutating, its like saying you can’t have a heart transplant or any other organ transplant because an organ is a living thing :hmph:
Derp I’m 18 :retard:
still kid
27th October, 1991 (19)
a 1 year difference in age :facepalm:
we are talking about bilble and you not me and you.
N.O.
he is saint.
And because stephen fry is a saint and is also gay your point towards gays is COMPLETELY invalid. There is nothing wrong with being gay.
And what if a member of your family got raped and hus got pregnant, what if they wanted an abortion because they didn’t want to be reminded of the pain. What would you do then?
well if you got raped ABORTION isnt the thing that will help you to forget it.
i hope you aren’t serious.
That didn’t answer my question, what if that’s what they wanted?
And serious about what? Stephen Fry being gay? It’s well known fact that he is gay :hmph:
my family member already had abortion(and not becouse of rape) and i am still very angry about that.
end even if it was about raping i would be against it, you can refuse motherhood and send child to orphanage.
about homosexuality being normal.
You’re angry at your family member because of that? They’re your own family for christ sake!
And it is normal. I know homosexual people who unless you were told were gay you’d never know. I didn’t know stephen fry was until I got told.
1:hey that guy are slaughtering children
2:dont worry he is my father, I love him.
at first i dont know who is stephen fry, and second if you think that you are smarter than nature you can create your own world.
Considering homosexuality exists throughout the animal kingdom, what makes you think it’s unnatural?
I’m fine with anyone that has a religion, but not if they try to stuff what they believe in down my throat.
we aren’t aniomals. and still if you want to compare them to us, homosexual animals FUCK each other, not live togather and adopt pupies or whatever shit is there.
it’s better to be religion than other “normal” thing.
@ Assassin
Your response to the question “would you slaughter your family with a kitchen knife if jesus told you to?”
no. i wouldn’t. why? I want to ask you have you watched movie Legion? it is mostly bullshit but what i liked in it was only one phrase. “I did, not what god ordered me, but what he wanted.” (maybe not much correct, but idea was that) but even if this wasn’t so god will never order killing someone.
What about him killing or order the killing of…
Lot’s wife for looking back Gen.19:26,
Er who was “wicked in the sight of the Lord” Gen.38:7,
Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10,
For dancing naked around Aaron’s golden calf Ex.32:27-28, 35,
Aaron’s sons for offering strange fire before the Lord Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61,
A blasphemer Lev.24:10-23,
A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath Num. 15: 32-36,
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Num.16:27,
Burned to death for offering incense Num. 16: 35, 26:10,
For complaining Num.16:49,
For “committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab” Num.25:9,
Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) Num.31:1-35
God tells Joshua to stoned to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26
God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). Joshua 8:1-25
God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4
Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king’s belly Jg.3:15-22
and on and on and on.
Honestly, no offense, but this looks like a God of justice and revenge, not the God of compassion or love.
Did you know that psychologists and psychiatrists consider homosexuality a natural and healthy phenomenon that occurs in any species, including humans? You can find more information about it here.
Allow me to make some critics.
When I said that Christians fight to each other and to non-Christians about things that don’t matter, I was talking about homosexuality as well. Homosexuality is the perfect example of something that doesn’t make much difference. Think about it: gay people don’t hurt other people more than heterosexuals do. If they are going to hell because of it, that is their problem, you should pity them and try helping them, not to be angry at them. And honestly I don’t see why they should go to hell.
If you didn’t pay attention, you are demonstrating a lot of anger towards homosexuals. I bet you don’t know any homosexual personally - otherwise I am sure you wouldn’t be so angry about them. In this case, you don’t have enough knowledge to accuse them of being pervert.
Are there pervert homosexuals? Yes, there are.
Are there non-pervert homosexuals? Yes, there are.
Are there pervert heterosexuals? Yes, there are lots of pervert heterosexual people as well.
Don’t you think you should be spending this energy on things that really matter? For instance, the world is filled with anger, so you, as a good disciple of Christ, need to spread tolerance, friendship, you need to teach people to accept each other regardless of their choices or their way of thinking. After all, isn’t this the greatest Jesus lesson: to love everyone, to accept everyone, to talk to them as equals and try to understand them?
My advice to you: do you want to know why homosexuals are the way they are? Do you want to be able to help them to become better people? Then make gay friends. If you have the chance to talk to a group of homosexuals, do that, and keep doing that as many times as you can. Or even better: just listen to what they say without saying anything except when they talk directly to you. Listen to them as if they were all Christians, or, even better, as if you were gay. You don’t have to say that you are gay nor act like one, just listen to them without hating them.
Remember that when Jesus invited publicans to eat dinner with him, he did not tell them that they needed to stop being publicans before having dinner with Jesus. When his disciples were uncomfortable with their presence, Jesus defended the publicans, not his disciples. You have to imitate Jesus: you need to defend gay people against gay haters - not with hate, but with comprehension and compassion.
If someone tells you “But you don’t need to be friend of gay people to accept and love them,” he is lying. If someone says that, he does not accept nor love gay people! Instead of loving, he is afraid of talking to them and of knowing them! Just to say hello and goodbye is not love at all, it is fear!
Is it hard to talk to gay people? Yes, it is. Is it hard to accept them as equals? Yes, it is. Is it hard to suffer prejudice from your fellow Christians because you are talking to gay people? Yes, definitely! In fact, your own friends and family will turn against you if you do that! But it is the right thing to do and that is what Jesus would do.
I mentioned homosexuals, but when you find people from other religion and atheists, you should do the same.
Okay, I’m done. If you are going to believe in what I said or not, well, that is your choice.
What makes you think we aren’t?
That’s like wanting things fall to the ground when you drop them…
Some species do, some species don’t. When the demonstrable evidence to the contrary, which is easily researched and is available to anyone that wants to learn, why do you believe such falsehoods?
Why religious people don’t like homosexuality?
Because admitting that homosexuality is natural would confront them with the possibilty that they themself experience homosexual thoughts quite frequently, because theyconsiders themself “natural”.
They would come to the conclusion that the notion of gender is constructed, an invention. Which would mean, that God can impossible have a gender. Which would mean that God is not a man. Which would mean that the bible was a means to screw people for a long time. (It goes on for a bit)
That sounds rather dubious, BrAndi, and kinda conspiracy-like… Many Christians believe that God created homosexuals just like He created heterosexuals and that gender-identity (if you identify as “male” or “female” or even something else such as “androgyny”) is a creation of God and, therefore, an extension of God.
I would like to get thoughts on that. 
I’ll just distance myself from this one. A bunch of my friends are/were gay/bi, so frankly I find many people’s treatment of them quite terrible because they’re normal people just like us. It’s what they choose to do, or think they are born with. I certainly don’t force my morals on people unless I think I’m 100% justified in doing so and I’ll let them know my reasoning.
I haven’t really looked into it much, and I can’t speak for all religions but I always assumed that Christianity had such a strict view of homosexual coupling because it doesn’t lead to propagation. In the formative years of the religion, when Christianity would have been most interested in expansion, it would have benefited the religion as a whole to procreate and create as many new Christians as possible. This goes a long way to explain why Christians are only permitted to have heterosexual sex, and are restricted from wanking ( because then you’ll want to have more sex leading to more babies ) .
Now it doesn’t really matter as much, since Christianity is so widespread, but it’s a full part of the whole tradition at this point. Can’t just go changing now can they?
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