An intelgent dicussion regarding the "7 hour war"

Launched some nukes at where? The battle took place on our home planet, presumably in all the major cities of the world. Using nukes would have been the equivalent of cyanide pills. It’s not even mutually assured destruction.

I don’t think the United States and the other countries of the world really like each other enough to be so moral. Regardless, they probably would have teamed up, but in 7 hours, they were probably too preoccupied to even establish a full defense, let alone international communication.

I’m sure that there was some situation where nukes would have been efficient in “sacrifice the area for a victory” scenario. But again, in 7 hours, I doubt a single government official had time to even reach a bunker let alone start planned launch sequences.

The Combine caught Earth with their pants down – I like to think there was barely an organized resistance save some jets and tanks in major-flag cities of the world. This is probably why the surrender of Earth took place in New York City in the United Nations building. But with the constant years of portal storms and teleporting Xenian-hostiles, there was probably some kind of military parameter on watch for this sort of thing. So I guess it wasn’t a complete slaughter.

The real question is: How can Gordon Freeman defeat the Combine or anything near that? He may coerce them into leaving Earth for a short while, but they’re a Universal Syndicate of Constantly Evolving Hybrid Aliens. I like to think there are Combine forces large enough to devour planets – what the hell can one man possibly do? I’m also confused as to how a militia rebellion is beating a synthetic army of super-slaughtering war machines. The Combine’s sole occupation for the past million years has been extermination, domination, and war. I guess that’s where the, “it’s a video game” card gets put on the table…

About the nukes. This is our only weapon capable of doing some serious damage. Firing them is one phone call away, and I am sure the governments of the nations, that have nukes, have a way of communicating even if there is some kind of emp shit going on outside. When you see a Second Alien invasion, you wont hesitate to press the red button with the hope of leveling the foe, of whatever the cost is.

Btw, I think that USA, Russia, China and so on, haven’t been sitting on their hands for the past 60-70 years. Ever heard of the Russian laser programs in the 70s? We would’ve been putting a hell of a fight against the Combine, if we were prepared. And the Earth would probably look worse than after the invasion, but we weren’t prepared. So they handed our asses to us.

Half Life 3 :smiley:

P.S. About the Russian secret weapons programs. Sadly, I can’t find info in english about those stuff. Anyways, its about a secret weapon that eliminated a whole chinesse battalion just in a few hours, leaving only melted metal on the battle field. This was 1967, imagine what they have now, or at the time of the invasions.

Honestly, I believe most “secret Cold War technology” was just a bunch of propaganda to scare the other side, and was either just an idea on paper or was in extremely limited development, like the M65 atomic cannon.

Even if were ready for the combine, there’s no way we would have won. There’s no telling what the extremes of the trans-dimensional technology bares, and with what we’ve already seen from the combine is any indicator, then there is no hope for humanity even when the Combine are completely forced off-world. All they have to do is open another trans-dimensional portal and WALLA a second round of massive dickings.

Gordon must go out there and crowbar them space asses!

Did you read anything I put at all? ‘Population centers’ are the key words. If you’ve got an alien planet wide invasion force bearing down on you and there happen to be some seemingly important, potentially central controlling forces in/above a city, would you risk nuking it and forfeit the entire population of said city?

WTF does M.A.D have anything to do with it? Why do people bring up Cold War policies when we’re talking about a fictional alien invasion of the world?

As for how Gordon could defeat the Combine…

What if he creates a Resonance Cascade on the Combine homeworld or some other central intelligence/control center?

My first thought when watching this: “Huh, train cannon with modified ammo.” Then, “Metal Gear?!”

Read what I said: NUKING OURSELVES WOULD BE FUCKING RETARDED NO MATTER WHERE WE DO IT. Nobody said anything about the Combine homeworld & if so how would we even get them there when the Citadels & the units inside them teleport to earth? Or are you just assuming that we can figure it out?

MAD is about when two opposing forces use nukes to wipe out each other’s homelands, so it would be a stalemate. Using nukes on the combine would be impossible because we can’t get to their homeworld, so they have the advantage, because nuking ourselves would only damage the forces they have stationed on earth, when their forces span several universes.

Is English your first language? If you had read it you’d realise the Combine resonance cascade idea has nothing to do with the original paragraph, and is in regards to how Freeman will end up defeating the Combine. I didn’t type a single thing regarding teleportation and nukes, WTF is wrong with you?

In regards to the MAD. It stands for mutually assured destruction, a Cold War idea that two opposing forces with world ending weapons would not shoot them at each other out of fear of being destroyed anyway. An unwinable war.

What I’M saying is, if we have an alien invasion force clearly wanting to destroy our entire civilization and exterminate our entire race, the mutually assured destruction part is forfeit anyway.
There isn’t any fear left if an ALIEN INVASION FORCE IS TELEPORTING IN A WORLDS WORTH OF KILLER ALIENS TO ANNIHILATE THE ENTIRE SPECIES. Why the fuck would the generals in chage care at that point if we lost a couple of cities to possibly save the entire species from extinction?

Just fucking THINK and actually READ within context in future, Honestly my 6 year old niece could grasp this better. When we are talking about fictional sci-fi stories it’s best not to base all your assumptions of war conventions on the Cold fucking War.

I know this sound stupid, but when Eli mentioned the 7 hour war, I always figured that’s about how long it took to play through HL1 (at least for the first time). :stuck_out_tongue:

Hl1 spanned about 2-3 days judging by the changes in skybox textures. Or are you just really bad at trying to brag about how ‘quickly’ you can beat half-life?

Nothing I’ve said was in reference to that. This thread is about how if humanity knew the Combine were coming to invade without it coming as a surprise. I never said or responded to anything about the resonance cascade or about Gordon. You’re the one who needs to learn how to read.

We both know that the combine teleported their citadels to earth.
The only way we could get nukes to their planet would be to teleport them, which we can not do.
That means our nukes would be no threat to them.
It would NOT EVEN BE mutually assured destruction.
It would just be self-destruction, which is pointless because it only kills ourselves faster.
That’s all I’ve said.

We wouldn’t save our species by nuking ourselves at no cost to our enemies. How would nuking our own cities in any way hurt the combine?

How is she bragging about how quick she can beat half-life? That was an honest laugh at her own misconceptions.

So? I’m not on this forum to address you and your points alone. I said ‘In regards’ meaning I was talking about something else. This entire thread has been about many different things, gtfover yourself.

As I’ve already said, who the fuck said anything about teleporting nukes to their homeworld? Noone! I’m talking about nuking invading combine on earth. I’ve said this at least three times.

I’ve also already said the fear of MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION doesn’t mean shit if we’re going to be wiped off the planet anyway.

So I was correct when I said ‘do you even fucking read a thing I said’. You clearly don’t, so I’l end this pointless discussion here as I don’t make a habit of talking to idiots.

It took me way more than 7 hours in my first playthrough… :frowning:

It took me 3 hours and a mad burst of adrenaline :retard:

It took me WAY more than 7 hours too. The timeline of Black Mesa has always interested me. People say it happens in around 2-3 days with Freeman getting to Xen/defeating the Nihilanth on day 3, but if OP4 is to be put into cannon it’d seem it went on into the morning of day 4, as the Black Ops set up the nuke.

CANON[/SIZE]. And no, it isn’t.

It will be.

Hopefully. Personally I see it as canon anyway.

So do I…

New thread!

I didn’t want to be a grammer nazi or anything and say that, but thank you!

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