Jets are like tens of millions of dollars.
edit: I had no flippin’ idea this was possible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Army_AH-64_Apache_extraction_excercise.jpg
That would actually be awesome to see in opposing force with the black ops. Wouldn’t suggest it at high altitudes though!
Honestly, what I want to see is the black ops using futuristic vehicles, to sort of imply that they’re using top-secret prototype gear or something. Ducted fan helicopters and that sort of thing.
Edit: Like this:
Damn, that movie had some awesome aircraft.
…Or, more realistically:
It’d be nice to see the Black Ops keeping that program’s $6.5 billion development from going to total waste.
Yeah, but the avatar helicopters look significantly more awesome.
Hence why I said they should have sent black-ops instead of the soldiers to begin with. If the black-ops planted the bomb instead of sending the soldiers, they could have sent the bomb off much sooner. That would have been a significantly larger sweep than soldiers could have done on foot & it wouldn’t have given nearly as much of a chance for people to escape the facility. By the time they planted the bomb in Op4, at least 2 days had passed since the incident started & there were still plenty of human & alien survivors not killed by the soldiers.
I said newer areas.
Ok, fair enough. But what if, hear me out on this, what if there were some kind of bunker-buster that could, in theory, be used to destroy these underground bunkers? Especially if used on one of the older decommissioned areas from the 50’s.
I said it’s confusing, as in it’s less easy to understand, not to say that I do not understand it. Do I need to explain it to you bit by bit in the most slowest, direct way or can’t you simply fit things together yourself?
You really think the government has any problem spending that kind of money at tax-payer expense? :lol:
Because nothing says “top-secret prototype” like a ducted fan. :retard:
Well, something about it had to not suck.
The nuclear option was not first on the list. It’d have been tremendously hard to explain if that kind of containment measure was successful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Worldwide_nuclear_testing.svg
It’s easier to write off $100 million unaccounted for in the budget than $140 million.
You keep pointing out things which are possible and could have been more effective, completely ignoring any constraints placed on the decisionmakers. Black Ops aren’t in the business of nuke-dropping, mind you-- their very nature is toward the clandestine.
LHC is newer.
Experimental science takes every measure to be free of external interference.
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I felt like making a picture:
They didn’t know truly how far the containment had failed, they also didn’t know of the Nihilanth holding the rift open and sending in more aliens.
They also don’t want to wipe a no doubt multibillion dollar research station holding some of the most important technology ever developed by man off the face of the earth. How do you not come up with this very simple stuff yourself?
So? Some would say the cold wars most desperate and tense period was during the 80’s, it didn’t finish until the early 90’s, which gives us 40 years of cold war building at the facility. Needless to say though that even the most recent areas ( which is still only 10 years of building until the cascade ) would still be hardened regardless.
Ok, fair enough. But what if, hear me out on this, the US government didn’t want people to know they’d just dropped a megaton yield nuclear weapon on their own soil to destroy their own research areas currently being besieged by their own military for unknown reasons? Which would no doubt happen had they done it themselves on the books. I’ve just explained this to you, but for some reason you disregard it and continue along the same line.
I lol’d because you have at least two people here explaining something which you’ve consistently said doesn’t make sense, picking apart endlessly simple things that can make sense if you simply put two and two together, yet are now saying your not confused by.
I’m bored now. We seem to be going over the same points over and over for ever more increasingly slightly different reasons whilst you dismiss any points being brought up. I enjoy talking about Half-Life lore, but this has just got tedious.
Your still to tell me though of when the US government has used F-16s to drop nuclear payloads. I am intrigued.
I liked Avatar…
Holy shit, is the LHC really that deep or is that image not to scale?
Edit: Nope, it’s not. According to Wikipedia it’s no deeper than 175 meters at any point.
lol, gotta love this thread-war over really nothing at all
I just searched “lhc diagram” and took the first pretty picture I found–
hey, 175 meters is about 173 meters deeper than I’ve ever dug!
They use whatever fake cover-story they must have used in the actual game when Black Mesa was nuked. They could even say it was an accident.
They haven’t (on record as far as I know) but they can be equipped with B61 nuclear bombs.
Confusing
Verb:
Make (something) more complex or less easy to understand.
Confused
Adjective:
Showing bewilderment
I am not confused, I’m saying that having the Black-Ops not be on the same side as the Grunts is confusing.
Then piss-off already.
Dias, I’m not even sure what you’re arguing about. Maybe you should tone it down a little.
Maximum yield 0.34 megatons? To fix Black Mesa?
Who said it had to be just 1 bomb? They’ve got multiple jets & each jet can hold 3 of those bombs. Tell me, how many megatons is this supposed to be?:
- That’s actually underground and within the facility
- Going by this chart and the non-obsolete design, I’d guess between 0.5 and 1 megatons
- Going by these specifications, though, it could be more:
Enough with this war already
So what do you guys think how big the Facility was ? I mean they had to go for a “Security-radius” to make sure everything is destroyed. So, speculating about the square kilometers of Black Mesa and the (mainly) Surface damage that a airborne nuke bomb does, don’t you think the need for “Packages” like this was great ? Like Dias said, who said it was only 1 bomb ? Even with the little warheads doing that much danger - 1MT from a warhead the size of a average human (it even looks like that in the Screenshot with GMan) - don’t you think more were necessary to be sure all is taken care off ? I mean wasn’t that the whole purpose of the Black Ops besides eliminating Freeman, because the Grunts weren’t able to handle it all themselves ?
Take it to PMs I say, my thread wasn’t meant to be a war between 2-3 people.
The link your showing shows an accident that was by no means covered up. Some bombs were lost, it’s happened alot believe it or not.
That doesn’t equate to anything like Black Mesa. Infact if I understand you right you think the best cover up would be to say 3 nuclear bombs were accidently dropped from 3 different planes that happened to be flying over a government funded research complex, during a heavy military build up around the area after the base went mysteriously silent.
Wow, I completely agree with you, that is a much more sensible and less contrived idea than simply dismantling a larger bomb in a government facility partly designed to do so and setting it off underground, calling it an accident.
Good one.
Regardless though your still completely disregarding my main point of you not being able to drop a nuclear bomb on US soil without it getting out because of the sheer amount of manpower required in doing so. Whilst disregarding all our points on the base more than likely being designed to withstand aerial bombardment.
So you were talking out your ass to prove a non existant point.
No you were talking about the story in general, regardless though it simply isn’t confusing.
Lol. Calm down child.
This isn’t a war. This is two people trying to explain simple things to someone who will not be proved wrong for the very simple fact of saving face ON THE INTERNET, simply because they disagree with other people liking a game they don’t.
Honestly if your using nuclear bombs in underground areas that are actually tunnelled out then the damage would be beyond catastrophic to anything and anyone underground. Vast areas would simply cave in within a matter of miliseconds whilst other areas would cave in under the weight of whats above. I’d imagine every major access tunnel to the underground would collapse. Any areas still left underground in one piece would be cut off.