Abortion

wat

EDIT: @assassin

I reffer to that with abortion or not you are STILL victiom of rape and ABORTION changes NOTHING.

and btw, pathetic is your nick…

nvm

You aren’t even forming comprehensible sentences anymore.

So if someone gets bullied at school and goes on a school shooting, they are not to blame as they were a victim before they chose to kill people and the shooting was forced by bullying, right? While the bullying may have been attributed to the shooting, the ultimate cause is the person that chose to kill because of it. School shootings are not necessitated by bullying, nor is an abortion necessitated due to rape or interest. Both might be desired, but they are not necessary.

My point was not to blame rape victims (I know a couple) or victims of incest, but to point out what does the living consequence of either of those acts have to blame? Nothing whatsoever; they haven’t even had the opportunity to make a choice yet.

Also, as Assassin points out, you can’t fix the situation by having an abortion. You were still raped. It might be easier for you to forget, but is expediency a reason to abort? (This is basically a rhetorical question, as most people think it is. I don’t).

I don’t want girls to get raped, and I’m not a misogynist. Your “ign’ant” ad hominems don’t change anything.

thats not the same thing you dipfuck, you said WELL OH ITS TOO BAD YOU GOT RAPED, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT UNWANTED BABY, MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A DIFFERENT WAY HOME!

and it’s not living until it’s born. you’re fucking worthless. it doesn’t matter if you intended to victim blame or be a misogynist, you achieved both PERFECTLY.

you are asshole until… well looks like forever.

why are you even still talking no one asked you
like i understand you’re retarded and unloved so you need to like desperately grasp for attention but really its a little irritating can you justgo

I doubt there was a special request for you.

youve proven yourself again and again to be ignorant and misogynistic so i dont think your opinion is really needed anymore if you’re going to continue to be a closeminded dickhole

put your tounge out of it… please…

@HawkeyE: Never mind Fancy Pants, she is pretty much the atheist version of Assassin.

Anyway, I partly agree with your point of view. I think abortion should be avoided, but I disagree that it is as bad as you portraited. The fetus is just a set of cells, it still didn’t develop conscience, emotions, friends or desire to live.

That said, it is very stupid to use abortion as a contraceptive method, and it is somewhat selfish to abort when you have financial, emotional and whatever conditions you need to raise the baby, but opt to abort just because you “don’t want a kid”. If I impregnate someone, I will give her complete support to have the baby.

However, today’s society is way too much judgmental. Lots of people take positions and force their views on other people, but very few bother to actually understand the situation before taking an instance and to give wise advices rather then inflicting guilt. If you don’t want to study the situation completely, then don’t get involved. If you can’t convince a girl not to abort by her own beliefs and understandings of the world, then don’t try to impose yours.

I’m still waiting for an answer on that:

What are you trying to argument exactly? That a man should be able to opt for the girl’s abortion? Or that he should not be blamed for walking away and not taking care of the kid nor helping the mother financially?

Well, you got me :blush:

However, this case needs help from a psychologist or maybe a psychiatrist. The solution depends too much on the specifics of the situation, so I don’t think the law should be changed based only on this case.

No, I’m saying that a man should have the right to atleast influence the mother’s will to have an abortion or not.

uh ok assuming the woman is mentally sound she should be able to make the decision entirely on her own

Nobody, except the anti abortion people talk about abortion as birth control. That is immature. But what is more immature is the belief that a woman should be forced to carry and give birth to a living breathing reminder of the man who raped her. Immature with a total lack of empathy.

hey! I don’t insult anyone!

aren’t you tired of it yet? it’s is just cells for you but in REALITY it is “cells” with soul and don’t try to dissagree with me…

yeah because if someone tries to disagree with you just say “nuh uh! im right and youre wrong”

Are you saying each individual cell has a soul or a group of cells has a soul? Either way that could technically mean you have a hell of a lot of souls in your rather than one.

It’s not its own living thing until its heart starts beating, then it’s “fueling” its own survival.

So they’re blameless but it’s still their fault because they couldn’t predict that they were going to be raped? Seriously, the fuck is wrong with you.

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