Technically it’s the same universe, however Valve said they made the two events hundreds of years apart so it will be hard to find major connections between the two games.
I really like the theory. Well put together, although I have my doubts 'bout the cybernetic race holding back the combine AND what’s rest of the resistance, but still well thought out. Little long, but I read through it and enjoyed it.
Why not? I’m not saying it’s likely or agreeing or anything but who knows when/where he’s from and what tech he has. If it’s a size thing then look at cell phones. They used to be huge, with really bad quality, but look at them now. They are small, with much better quality and so many different things you can do on them.
And I think supernatural is a load of shit. Why is it supernatural? Because it’s unfamiliar, probably. There’s alot I think is a load though.
well formed theories yes, but i do have a slight bone to pick with it. granted i haven’t read all that much into it elsewhere, so i may be pretty far off, but the vorts are never mentioned and they play a very key roll in how things develop. you say Gman teleports you off the citadel before it explodes but no, the vorts and take Gordan and Alyx and feel the need to block out Gman’s influence on Gordan. So the vorts have the ability to teleport themselves, as well as others through their own energy.
Maybe I’ve watched too much Doctor Who lately, but time and space are so…wibbly and wimey that just because it’s two hundred years in the future or a similar-but-not universe apart from each other doesn’t mean they can’t cross paths if someone cracks a hole in the right spot.
Advanced technology is akin to magic or supernatural powers if it’s advanced enough.
There’s a lot of meat in this OP, enough to remind me why I cared about all this in the first place.
In Half-Life if you use noclip and position your head just right inside Gman’s briefcase, you can see the contents. As follows:
3 pencils
A laptop
A 9mm handgun
a notebook
several formal papers
and [COLOR=‘Red’]a piece of unidentifiable machinery.
I’m betting high-tech.
FOR THE LAST MOTHERFUCKING TIME![/SIZE]
WE WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO SEE IT. AND IT IS NOT CANNON IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY!
It was probably just an easter egg[/SIZE]
As for the Portal 2 stuff, Valve has stated that it is in no way connected to the Half-Life universe whatsoever. Portal 1 had a slight connection to the Half-Life universe, mentioning Black Mesa a few times, and EP2 had a slight connection to Portal, mentioning Aperture as the creator of the Borealis. Portal was a ‘test run’ of this portal gameplay that the university students came up with, and seeing as it was immensely popular and enjoyable, they have decided to extend the experience with a second game, with events pertaining to the first Portal, but completely severing it’s ties to the rest of the Half-Life universe. Hence, the change to the ending of Portal in the update. Portal 2 will take place in the distant future and will have no connection to Episode 3 at all. Obviously the Borealis is going to be in EP3, but Chell will not, neither will GlaDOS, or the portal gun, or anything else Portal related.
This is kind of a technicality, but it’s an important one to clear up so that everyone can understand each other.
Half-Life and Portal - either they are in the same universe, or they aren’t. It can’t be both. Since things from Half-Life are mentioned in Portal and vice versa,
THEY ARE NOW AND FOREVER WILL BE IN THE SAME UNIVERSE[/SIZE].
Just because we won’t see any Half-Life stuff in Portal 2 doesn’t mean Portal 2 somehow moved into a universe where the events of Half-Life didn’t happen.
portal 2 is just a distant future where the combine MAYBE have been defeated. Still it keeps being in hl2 universe, doesn’t it?
I really don’t think GLaDOS will ever interact with freeman… what’s the point? There’s juice enought in hl as it is now. Gordon is allready a phd fighting dimensional invaders with a bunch of human rebels, trying to find an ultimate piece of tecnology to send the aliens back to their own universe (wich may just be a part of our own universe, far far away… after all, xen was metioned to be “a sort of underground metro system connecting diferent places in space, a desolate location where the vorts and their dictatorial society had to run to and hide”).
My point is that portal is a separate game, with it’s own promissing story, very “milkable”. Unless valve keeps those to games separate, and focuses on showing some new light on the g man’s identity instead of making things more complicate, the public is going to be way to confused about the hl story to actually apreciate it.
I’m not saying that portal and hl will forever be apart. Maybe some day (some game releases ahead) , chell will meet survivors from the combine wars, or their descendants in a chaotic but recovering earth. The thing is that mixing such complicate narratives in just one game now, when we are most confused and desperate for explanations, well… wouldn’t be a good idea.
yeah, people don’t want to buy 2 different games to understand their story.
Yeah, I think that either Gman will once again influence the future in the last part of the series. Or that everyone will die. Either way, didn’t valve say that Ep3 or HL3 would be the final Gordon Freeman game?
And I doubt portal will come into the final installment in any way. It would be a kinda lame stretch.
No, they said Ep3 was the last installment in the planned story arc. They’ll keep making Half-life until they run out of ideas/finish off the story for good.
Ah yes, I apologize. Universe was a poor choice of wording. What I meant by universe was storyline. While some elements of the Portal storyline (Aperture Science, specifically) carried over to Episode 2, and vice-versa, Portal 2 will not have any impact on the story of Episode 3.
9/10 of that long ass post was stuff I already knew.
So Gordon may possibly live on in a new installment besides Ep3/HL3?
no, they havent planned anything beyond ep3
When Ep3 is done & out, I’d be perfectly happy if I don’t hear anything about a new HL game for another six years.