2009 Iran Election and protest

#41

fuck this post

#42

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#43

What country are you from?

lol @ puberty.

#44

Really? I thought Latin America was known for a succession of American-backed military dictatorships, propped up by death squads, CIA coups, and drug trafficing. What would you hold up as an experiment of democracy?

#45

well read this:
https://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Politics/ComparativePolitics/LatinAmerica/?view=usa&ci=9780195157598
And if you think that Latin America is all about military dictatorship, here’s some facts - none of the Juntas lasted more than 3 years, and none of the countries where Juntas took place went the same way again.
Are you sure it’s not Africa you talking about?

Try to take less facts from movies next time.

#46

Democracy at gunpoint isn’t actually democracy, you know

#47

and you referring to?

#48

Ok man, I can’t speak for other countries here in South America (even though I’ve studied their history and I’m pretty sure some of them had pretty lenghty military dictatorships), but here in Brazil we had a 21 year long military dictatorship that was incentivated by the U.S., because our president at the time was a nutcase and had a crush on socialism.

6 of those 21 years were deeply marked by capture, torture and execution of ANYONE that would disagree with any of their ideas; I’ve heard of people who were beaten to almost death for not knowing how to fold the flag in those fancy triangle forms during one of them military parades.

Also, Argentina had around what? 5? 6? Or even more different military governments, each lasting 3 or 4 years. Chile was governed by Pinochet for 17 years (1973-1990). I could go on all night, but I think you get the point.

And if you think any country in the South America had nearly a glimpse of decent democracy before the 60’s, then you’re relying way too much on what books tell you. Books say that Brazil was made independent in 1822, but if you looked deeper in our history, you would find out that we had another 60 years when the country was ruled by Portugal’s royal family members, and the country was essentially still a colony.

I’m sorry if I sound rude, but please do not speak of what you don’t know; I won’t speak for other south americans, but here in Brazil, you could say our REAL democracy has only been around for like 25 or 20 years, or even less.

#49

^Well most of this is right, but look at my previous posts.

I admit I wrote bullshit about “less than 3 years”
And taking in mind those notable 3 military interventions and other less known coups, Latin America nevertheless counts as overall democratic part of the world. Which does not make situation any better, which I was originally getting at a few posts earlier.

#50

I think I’m misunderstanding your point here.

You clearly stated that none of the juntas lasted longer than 3 years, when here it lasted more than 20. Also, you said that none of the countries went the same way again, when many countries like Argentina, Ecuador, Chile etc., had 2, 3 or even more military dictatorships in different periods of their histories.

#51

^edited my post
oh and i missed the

You are denying the whole point of any form of government here.

#52

What does any of this have to do with the Iranian Elections?

I doubt any outside force had a hand in what is going on. It just looks like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wanted to rig the election but didn’t do a very good job.

  • The result being announced BEFORE the counting was anywhere near being finished.

  • 2 to 5 million PAPER votes supposedly being counted in a single evening.

  • Opposition vote numbers decreasing as time goes by.

  • Missing unused vote ballots that could be used to fake results in a recount.

#53

I was just starting to wonder.
I all came with me making an unfriendly nod towards democracy.

#54

this:

Mith says Brazil has only had actual democratic rule for 25 years, that puts us solidly back in the time frame when Reagan was financing death squads in Nicauragua, my point being that if an “election” is held in an environment where all but one political party is repressed at gunpoint its not actually an example of democracy.

#55

[COLOR=‘Red’]Stop it!

#56

double post (delete me)

#57

They also called Mousavi the night before the results were announced and said he won.

#58

And the Grand Ayatollah has come out and asked for an official recount and for legal proceedings to be undertaken to work out what really went on.

Of course a recount is useless when the govt can just use the blank ballot papers to fudge as many votes as they need =[

#59

source or it didn’t happen

There’s a rumor that as the early results came in, Khamenei called Mousavi to congratulate him.

#60

We should just bomb the shit out of them while they’re distracted.

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