Why change military vehicles

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#81

they probably typed “grenade” into google image search and used the first image that came up.

i wouldn’t mind if they used a little sense when putting weapons into the game though.

i find it interesting that apparently, there isn’t one person in the weapons department at valve, who had at least superficial knowledge about weaponry to know that a ww2 frag grenade in a game set in the future is retarded. or maybe they did, but just didn’t care. and that’s where i disagree with their philosophy.

i mean, to be honest, it’s a little insulting. the rating on the box says mature, yet the game was designed as if it was for 10 year olds. during some moments, there’s almost no attempt at suspension of disbelief. that might be fine before the age of google and wikipedia, but people who play games now are curious and will do research. valve can’t be lazy in their own research department, which for a game like this, is really more of the “common sense” department.

again, i’m not asking for total realism with everything thoroughly thought-out. that’s impossible. but like that ww2 grenade example someone provided, it wouldn’t hurt if that kind of silliness doesn’t show up anymore…but knowing valve, it probably will.

#82

I don’t think google existed back in 1996.

#83

that’s my point. they can’t keep putting ww2 grenades in their games set in the future. of course, by the future new grenades would probably have been developed, but the purpose of suspension of disbelief is to find a modern day equivalent that people can relate to. in 1996, that may have been the more recognizable pineapple grenade from ww2, now a days, people are more familiar with the m67 frag grenade, especially in the game community, becaus that’s what they see on the news, on google/wikipedia, in games like modern warfare(i don’t play it, btw.

#84

Half Life: Modern Warfare.
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#85

So your point is that Valve is stupid because they used a grenade that was recognisable at the time their game was developed and didn’t foresee that 15 years later a different grenade would be more recognisable?

#86

I hope when Half-Life 3 comes out that it won’t use any real guns or vehicles, so I won’t ever have to hear this shit again.

#87

I should make our mp5 shoot nails.

#88

I was always more familiar with the pineapple…

#89

The grenade should be a pineapple. Yay! Ambassador came to save us from the kooky, murderous aliens!

#90

:freeman:

#91

When it comes to military hardware, age is before beauty. The longer you can keep something in the field the better. After all you wouldn’t want to replace the previous vehicle every 3 years (like a home computer), it would be too expensive.

Going against the fact Valve wouldn’t of really done any research on military hardware, the HECU probably went with the Bradley because they were expecting heavy firepower and the M3 offers better protection against large armaments than the Stryker. Plus its tracked so it can better navigate sandy terrain

#92

I decided to read the last page of this thread. What a fucking mistake.

#93

If the BM team wants to stay realistic, the HECU should be using 69. cal scuber-alloy jackets, on a spam-lift recoil dampening rail setup with their MP5. The actual U.S. military employs shifterblikrglubrglabber when shooting people into chunky, jellied pools of gore.

#94

LAV-25, not Stryker. They’re similar, but they aren’t the same.

#95

valve 14 years ago wasn’t stupid, but they didn’t progress from that stage in 2004. and usually, when something doesn’t change with age, it is retarded, not mentally disabled sense, but in the sense that it doesn’t mature.

#96

Yeah, my argument went down the wrong path for the wrong reason. From what I can find the LAV-25 is 27 years old. How much protection do they offer?

#97

Not that much, the LAV-25 is a Support Vehicle mainly used for Scouting, but comes in Artillery, Anti-Tank, Anti-Air, and many other indirect combat variants.

#98

I will play this mod, and that will be all that matters to me.

#99

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Clarify.

#100

That reminds me, you never answered my question. What would you make an armored space suit look like, and could you give me an example of a 70s/80s sci-fi suit that looks remotely like the HEV?

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