except for you’re absolutely wrong on that. and you’re absolutely wrong on saying it would arouse anyone. go get raped, tell me how much it arouses you. you act like such an expert on the subject, why not go back up your claims?
Oh come on Bolteh, that “you have bad reading comprehension abilities” ultimatum is boooooooooooring.
Think of something better.
Danson said nothing but a reminder that a healthy-hymened woman losing her virginity in the process of a rape is… [COLOR=‘Gray’]let’s see, what would it probably be… oh right: painful.
Now you’re throwing a tantrum because we’re not going out and stating that a girl getting raped could have a slither of a chance of getting some enjoyment out of it. While this whole time, we have been discussing what’s actually important - - the general case. We’re beyond needing to establish that there are masochists in the world, and exceptions to every single rule.
Sadly, Tiki here is a shining example of bad reading capabilities.
Let me shorten it for you with an example:
Girl is about to get raped
Girl: “aaargh no i don’t want to, get off no aaaaargh nooooo”
Rapist: “roar”
Girl: “nooooo please don’t! DO NOT WANT!”
Rapist: “fuck youuuuuuu!”
vagina lubricates because the body is aroused for some reason or another
Girl: “NOOOOOOOOOOOO! HELP ME! SOMEONE HELP ME!”
There, girl isn’t enjoying it, girl doesn’t want it, vagina still lubricates. Yes this happens because the mind and body of a human are not one. It’s not because a girl gets wet that she’s actually enjoying the idea of being raped.
everyone who disagrees with you is stupid and can’t read. are they also fat and stinky?
they fucking don’t get wet you dense shit. do you even know anyone who’s been raped? do you know how incredibly offensive that would be to them?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
No, unlike you I only go by facts and not by assumptions.
really? where’s your facts? and how the fuck am i ASSUMING? believe it or not, i think i know how these things work significantly more than you do. again, have you ever even spoken to a rape victim? i honestly doubt you have, or you’d realize how stupid you look right now.
Tiki, what’s the term for someone switching around themselves and another person?
If there’s not one, make a name for it with a really complicated name, but still makes sense.
My fact: you 2 haven’t been reading what I’m saying because you two keep going on about how it’s NEVER or ALWAYS.
My fact: the mind and body of a human aren’t one.
Your assumptions: me never having met a girl, been with a girl or had sex
Your assumption: you have a vagina, therefore you know how every female body works (or even human body)
Okay, let’s compare to a list of your assumptions: girls get aroused by rape, rape isn’t physically traumatizing, the act of an object painfully being forced inside you is somehow arousing.
i think you’ve got me beat in the retarded assumptions category.
And there we have it again. You’re just failing to get anything I said.
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Girls get aroused by rape <-> the vagina may lubricate regardless of the girl’s unwillingness
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Rape isn’t physically traumatizing <-> it can cause physical trauma, but it might as well “just” cause mental trauma if point 1 happened
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The act of an object painfully being forced inside you is shomehow arousing <-> see point 1
See, you’re showing that you know absolutely nothing about the female body with point one. Again, sexual arousal is not JUST physical, and it’s not JUST psychological. You’re likely to be being hurt physically and psychologically, you’re not going to get aroused. If you don’t want it, YOUR BODY WILL NOT GET AROUSED. It is that simple, and for some reason, you can’t grasp that.
I’ll go with either egotistical befuddlement or identification imbroglio.
It may not be how your body works, but it’s still quite possible that it happens to other bodies.
i’m sure rape victims would LOVE to hear how secretly aroused they were when what was potentially the worst event in their entire life was happening to them. you’re definitely underestimating how bad rape is, quit trying to find some fucked up way to justify the actions of someone who is ruining another persons life by saying that they were aroused. it’s sickening.
Egotistical Befuddlement sounds goods.
Just for the word befuddlement, it needs to be used more in psychological disorders.
Fixed that part for you, seeing as you can’t read and thus not properly reply, I’ll just fix your answers for you.
And for this part: I’m not underestimating anything, but I’m not overestimating it either. I’m not justifying rape or the ruining of lives. I’m not saying that all rape victims were aroused (how many times do I have to say this?).
even implying that someone in their situation COULD HAVE been aroused is insanely offensive because it’s plain wrong. you have literally no idea what you’re talking about. you’re really trying to argue with me over how female arousal works, and that is fucking astounding. you are so sure of yourself, yet you have NO experience with what you’re trying to say. all your “facts” come from your shitty assumptions and have no base in reality. anyone with a shred of sense could tell you that.
Exactly. (So much for “reading capabilities”, Bolteh)
Also, even with no visible trauma AND proper lubrication involved, the process of rape, for any rape victim, is painful - be it for psychologic reasons or whatever. One exception maybe: Being raped while being unconscious. But otherwise the mere fact that the body is in a state of frozen shock, the vaginal muscles in a throe, and the mind reluctant of the penetration, causes genuine physical pain. Bruises or none. And the pain doesn’t stop with the rapist getting his orgasm and running off. It comes back every time the traumatic experience is remembered. Genuine, physical pain and shock. Apathy. Uncontrolled spasming of the body. Whimpering. Crying. Fear of death.
I have often found my ex curled up in fetal position on the bathroom floor, trembling all over and unable to respond to any kind of attempt at communication, screaming when being touched even slightly.
Seriously, Bolteh - stop reading and watching so much Hentai. And remember that the “Non-Consentual”-Section on “Literotica” contains FICTION, nothing else. You’re better off with the BDSM Section. At least there, mutual consent is involved, which makes it slightly less unrealistic.
There is, however, apparently one type of rape victims who “likes” being raped: Those that need retraumatization as part of the coping process. They often become porn stars. In fact, most girls that become porn stars do it because of one or several experiences of sexual abuse in their past. But, generally speaking, their initial rape experience was all but pleasant.
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