Oops… "Federal authorities are closing in on the man they say is a person of interest in the Times Square car bomb attempt this weekend, who is described as a naturalized American citizen who hails from Pakistan and just returned after spending five months there.[/SIZE] "
I told y’all, this kind of half-assed amateur-hour BS is very typical of the terrifying Islamofascist enemy that we’re engaging in perpetual warfare to save Western civilization from.
I would love your sig if the girl didn’t have boob tendons.
Also, I really don’t get the point of this thread besides idiots making stupid comments about tea partiers. When we know something more, then there can be a discussion, and even then there probably won’t be.
orly, here’s you’re “first” online enemy right here. go on, save the western world from the likes me of me…it’s nothing new, it’s simply stereotypical bullshit 
Are you denying that there are Muslims in the world that want to kill Americans? Because that whole 9/11 thing at the very least should disprove that.
But who attacked us on 9/11, Someonerandm? What government? If no government was involved, what nations or nationalities were involved? Or is the religion the only thing of import?
Who bombed Iraq and Afghanistan? Christians?
You forgot Nelson Mandela.
Wait, seriously? You think that Al Qaeda and other transnational terrorist groups would be able to perform mass recruitment drives if there wasn’t something more tangible? They don’t hate us for the way that we treat our women, they hate us for the fact that we consistently fucked up their entire region over the course of the last century. And there are things we could do to stop it. Actively trying to rebuild Afghanistan would be one course of action. Getting the hell out of the Middle East would be another.
Al Qaeda is built on a Wahhabist-style rhetoric of a jihad, or holy war in defence of the Islamic community (also called ummah). The key is that it is a defence of the Islamic community. The way that they have been able to engender this view of the US as a threat that needs to be defended against is because the US consistently has shown a complete disregard for the sanctity of the region and the need to deal with the needs of the Middle Eastern people, specifically the Arab populations.
Examples of this include the various interventions on behalf of Israel, the First and Second Gulf Wars, Afghanistan (Mark 1) and even the Iraqi invasion, all of which could have been avoided. The fact that the US has constantly proclaimed an interventionist agenda in the region means that Al Qaeda’s rhetoric of ‘self-defence’ has gained some credence. And that’s the thing that sustains the movement; the constant interventionist policy of each successive US administration that has to deal with the Middle East. Only Obama has shown even the slightest of nuance in the region.
Moreover, the US gave Al Qaeda and the Taliban weapons throughout the Afghan war in the late 70s and 80s, all in the name of stopping the Soviet threat to US resource interests in the Persian Gulf. They blatantly disregarded the potential for the spread of Islamic extremism and not only that, they left the country after the Soviets withdrew, and continued to fund the mujahideen fighting in the area so that they would overthrow the pro-Soviet government. That’s putting aside the fact that the Soviets never proclaimed an interests in the Persian Gulf.
Basically, the US shot themselves in the foot in every way conceivable. The way that they move forward is a task of winning the hearts and minds of the Arab populations. If they show the people in the region that they are more interested in working with them, rather than against them, then you destroy the credence of Al-Qaeda-esque arguments, and effectively ‘win’ the War on Terror. The problem with the Bush administration was that they never showed a motivation to even deal with the Arab community, much less acquiesce to some of their requests, because they saw them as the “enemy”. Only when you don’t do either of things can you move forwards, and its something that the US never, up until recently, showed an interest in doing.
I think he’s exaggerating to point out how needlessly demonised the Islamic world is by Western powers due to a few rogue organisations. 
We’re on you’re side most of the time Shadi, you seem too defensive to realise that.
Indeed, it was quite obvious that mattemuse was being ironic.
There are plenty of muslims that want to kill Americans, it’s just that they are comically incompetent. The difference between propane and fireworks in Times Square and 9/11 is that pre-9/11 they had funding and support from State/Military actors in Saudi Arabia. Now that it’s politically untenable for them to obtain State backing, AQ needs to rely on their own natural talents, and this is the result - terrifying WMD’s cobbled together with bubblegum and shoestrings, that never go off.
Also Shadi, you’re not an “online enemy.” You’re too much of a pussy to strike back against the hated Imperialist Crusaders, you just like to shoot your mouth off.
you really have a big mouth don’t you. what a sad underdeveloped brain you have.
If you noticed, he didn’t keep his generalization to your side of the globe in his original post. He also included the possibility of an american in this plot. To be honest, I think he just wanted to be the first to call it regardless of how many people he hurts in the process. He is a shit stirrer that you are probably best to ignore. Which should be relatively easy to do seeing how he normally only hangs out in the argumentative/confrontational/in your face… oh wait no, its called the debate area. Yeah, just continue on in the normal parts of the forum and you wont have to deal with him too much. Not ALL are like him shadi. Not everyone is big on making such judgmental remarks as he is. I am sure you will feel the repercussions again as a result of this idiot with the bomb, but I apologize for the fact that once again an innocent is grouped in with an extremist.
Mattemuse and Tiki are the first two in my list of distrbing fuckers.
One is an old friend from tfc days, so regardless of how much of a turd he is, I just cant put him on my ignore list.
thanks catz your words were really comforting 
I honestly didn’t see any judgemental remarks from mattemuse.
Mattemuse is a clever guy - and he seldom gets too personal. He’s far from being perfect, but I think some people here could even use him as an example on how to improve their own way of communication on these forums.
I’m just saying.
That’s funny, they are in my list too.
Them and danny were who I sorta had in mind when I made that voteban thread.
EDIT: oh, on topic. yeah. um I don’t know much of whats going on with this bomb guy, but I’m thinking he is just some crazed shit kicker. anyone have any information that points to the otherwise?
I agree, except that he often gets too aggressive, and most people take offence from that.
It would kind of rule if there were a few more timothy mcveighs just to see how the american propaganda devil-robot squirms w/ semantics. Theres gonna be too if the teaparty keeps at its crazy course since tim andd them have pretty similar beliefs/ levels of sanity
mattenmuse rules and is too good for you guys/ this place
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